go with Lance.I bought a dvd from capt jim to learn how to fish with a downrigger.It did not say what speed to go.I called capt jim and asked him.He told me he could not tell me all his secrets.I explained to him that the dvd said it would tell me how to fish with a downrigger,and he advertised that too.after having to argue with him that that is an important part of the process,he told me.He's probably a good fisherman but after that I was done with him.On the other hand Lance Sasser is not only the best,but a GOOD Man.