I'm sure Tim had a guide if he was fishing the upper dam. Please don't try to go up there without knowing the way.There are several boat eating rocks.It's one of the largest sedimentary rock formations in the world,and I venture to say there have been more boats lost in this area than any other place on the Ohio.I'm down there every Fri. and would be happy to show you the way.. at that pool. PM me and we can work it out. Be careful out there. Chuck