I generally have a lot of luck on the shake-e-worm at the Big C but always go 3/16 D&L. Rarely do I step it up to a 1/4. Greens and Purples always seen to work well for me. Some dip-n-glo on the tail helps if you need to catch some spots. Biggest tip...just be patient and let your bait get down there before starting to dance it around. If you are not popping it in and on rocks (and getting hung up from time to time) then you arent there yet.