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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill M of NJ View Post
    Lying......Bull, my son was born in 1983, all I had to do was show my blue Cross/blue shield card and everything was covered, prescription was my card, company paid benefits, whole state was that way for years, after 1999 it was $50 per month with a $20 doctor visit fee, since Obamacare prices sky rocketed, that is all facts
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    That's total BS. Medical Prices have been climbing for years. Lying

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    We don't give it away

    the folks who hire and and pay illegals under the table, are the ones who are stealing our medical plans. Also they the ones who hire illegals pay very little toward the cost of educating the illegal children. But you can't prosecute them , because they are americas back bone. The 'small farmers, and small business owners" are what makes this country great, it would even be greater if they would abolish some of these stiffling wage plans.

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    Russians launch thousands of BOTs

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watc...n-906944067597

    Anti Hillary and Pro Trump Bots launched by Russian Secrete Service dudes

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    Moveon, have no reason to lie, its fact what I posted, now the gloves come off....typical liberal cant take truths, now here comes life facts.....diagnosed as a Type 1 diabetic in 1963, working full time since 1977 and use my health benefits and know every penny spent on it, would not be alive today if I didn't, A1C numbers have always been outstanding. Now a Dr. friend filled me in on some of his patients and he has never seen A1C numbers as high as they are now, and why?? Because the so called affordable health care is far from affordable, now these patients are taking there insulin in dyer need instead of taking as prescribed, Obamacare is hoping these people die off and cost the insuarance companies nothing in the long run, that statement came from his mouth, now tell me how great this chit is, its not in any way shape or form. Now as far as the parties go, they both are on the take for there own needs and could care less about the back bone of this country , the working class.
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    Why?????

    I also use a type of insulin, comes in pen form, how much does it cost to manufacture? Where did the money come from for the development?And why has the price on some of this stuff hardly ever go down.My supplemental insurance went up over 50 bucks a month after I was diaagnosed with cancer, that wasn't the HCA that was AETNA insurance.I'm not bitc----. about the cost that much, because before tjhe HCA I might have been dropped.Folks talk about the two tier medical coverage under most universal health plans, yes it's there.So if you are well off, why not go for the best treatment, you'll pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    I also use a type of insulin, comes in pen form, how much does it cost to manufacture? Where did the money come from for the development?And why has the price on some of this stuff hardly ever go down.My supplemental insurance went up over 50 bucks a month after I was diaagnosed with cancer, that wasn't the HCA that was AETNA insurance.I'm not bitc----. about the cost that much, because before tjhe HCA I might have been dropped.Folks talk about the two tier medical coverage under most universal health plans, yes it's there.So if you are well off, why not go for the best treatment, you'll pay for it.
    Those auto injectors have driven up the cost to astronomical amounts..........is this the disposable one, or refillable.

    why not just use a needle and insulin from a bottle, which is pennies compared to dollars.

    Like you, I'm not bitching about it but MAN, with me being on an HSA and paying all expenses up to my dedictuble there is no way in HELL I'd be using an auto injector.......the costs would kill me .

    Likewise, my doctor wanted to put me on a 300/month prescription, and I told her to go eff herself.........I said strike one, lets try something else.

    I ended up with a 5 dollar generic and has worked for 40 years.........and it's working for me.

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    type 2

    I don't know if there is an insulin therapy for my diabetis..i'll need to ask, but there are lower cost oral medications, that work well with the pen. There are surgical options for one of the problems I have, but it's not worth the recovery time.
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    And the Tooth fairy is real too

    Santa Clause will deliver to Trump the Best health care Plan in the entire World. You can trust me. it's true.. Believe me it's really really true.

    Yea right. Shut up Dtrump.


    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    you boys be nice to each other, Trump is going to do what he said he would, he is going to repeal Obamacare and get rid of that healthcare mess, that has 35 million more people using it to get doctors care for their sick kids, I can't wait for him to get it repealed and replaced, he is going to replace it with a Beautiful plan, you will love it, the hospitals will love it, the doctors will love it, it will be Beautiful, a plan unlike anything you have ever seen, it will be a plan for all Americans, such a Beautiful plan, you will love it, so while we wait for Trump and the Gop to repeal the mess we are stuck with today, just try and be nice to each other, a better, cheaper, user friendly, a Beautiful health care plan is just around the corner......

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    waiting time

    the biggest bit-- I hear about about other countrys health service is waiting time. Well fans we have it, and have had it for years.To begin with a lot of doctors won't accept medicare patients. And referals are also a problem, YOU know whats wrong in many cases, but the insurance wan't a specific diagnosis. That means specialist, and waiting time.Then many doctors do not belong to all health plans, added costs to the patients. Calling to check that info means long times on hold, and sometimes disconnects. Do any of you remember "house calls". very slim chances that will ever happen again. Waiting times in offices are sometimes ridiculous.So don't go blaming all the medical woes on HCA, it was there before nobahma, and will be thetre long after the 'donald"' is gone. Medicine is BIG business, and the insurance cartels will fight any change to lower the profits.How many medical lobbyists are there?And who pays them, and who do they bribe?

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