You are right David, Sherbert runs a great show. He has for 10 years. His tournaments are run as well as if not better than the old KTC-PTR-Fishing line-TNT and others. But everyboby knows that's because of Ms VanMeter. There are only two things wrong with Renegade. Number one is you always have to fish against those two guys{wink}. I'm fortunate to beat those two guys one time a year. They are the gold standard if you fish a circuit. Number two is I am not going to Ky lake 3 times a year for one circuit. I'm going to try Southern Marine this year but I would rather fish on Sat. Had I known it was Sat. last year I would have fished it then. When is S.M. going to put the schedule on whocaughtwhat?