I to like the extremes for people like me on little to no budget. The new special buy pro quailfier from BPS is great it is 7.1 oz is a 6.4.1 and in the same frame as the new carbonlite reel that is $10. more. The pro is on $79 right now and with reel trade in is only $65, normally $109.99. My dad just got one yesterday and they getting very hard to get. Just like the Skeet crankin rod, can keep it on the shelf. Hope this help you.