Well tested them out this afyternoon on a pond. Got to bites, but both times as the fly was sinking after my cast. Missed both fish. No bites for about an hour and then another bite as the fly was dropping. My buddy was there spin fishing and had a full tackle box so I improvised. Took a bobber and put it about 2 feet up my leader. basically fished a float n fly using a size 4 Clouser minnw. Proceeded to catch three largemouth in a five minute stretch. Ended up salvaging the day and learned a little. Looks like I will take some bobbers with me to Dale in order to work my fly in ths strike zone. Oops, we don't call them bobbers....I will take some rather large strike indicators to Dale Hollow!