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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbyrd View Post
    They do know the answer HOT WATER. LOW 02 levels. But can't be helped mother nature doing her balancing act. Dale has such a strick limit on it that the smallmouth population has exploded. TOO many fish for the amount of 02 and duh..... Wonder when they are going to admit that their plan for a instant new world record from dale didn't work. The slot limit helped the amount of 4 -6 lb fish but it also has added more fish taking from the amount of forage and using o2.
    I agree, it sure has been a hot summer. One for the records I think. I hope that is a fact about the explosion
    of the smallmoth population because I need all the help I can get to catch um. I was starting to think they were few n numbers of them left.

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    No there are not to many fish in Dale to compete for available O2. There are however fish that are stressed due to the temps. That happens, its normal for some to die out. 158 fish does not put a dent in the numbers.1058 would not hurt it. And the smell from down near the lower end comes from a oil well that has been leaking for 40 years. If you look at google earth and go back through the years you can actually see the sheen from the oil and where it originates. Has not bothered the fish or the fishing except it put a coating of oil on your line and boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbyrd View Post
    They do know the answer HOT WATER. LOW 02 levels. But can't be helped mother nature doing her balancing act. Dale has such a strick limit on it that the smallmouth population has exploded. TOO many fish for the amount of 02 and duh..... Wonder when they are going to admit that their plan for a instant new world record from dale didn't work. The slot limit helped the amount of 4 -6 lb fish but it also has added more fish taking from the amount of forage and using o2.

    Are you serious? That is an absurd statement. Hot water and low oxygen levels are the culprit, but it is not because there are too many smallmouths!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim_T View Post
    Are you serious? That is an absurd statement. Hot water and low oxygen levels are the culprit, but it is not because there are too many smallmouths!
    Ok, think of this on a smaller scale, Is it easier to keep one fish alive in your live well during the summer or 5. Each and everything that removes any parts per milllion of dissolved o2 from the water contribute to the balancing act !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbyrd View Post
    Ok, think of this on a smaller scale, Is it easier to keep one fish alive in your live well during the summer or 5. Each and everything that removes any parts per milllion of dissolved o2 from the water contribute to the balancing act !!!!!

    It's not that there's not enough dissolved O2 in the water, it's that the fish don't find it....As the water heats up down deep, the thermocline, and dissolved oxygen levels push up in the water column....Fish like smallmouth, walleye, and stripers that aren't really meant to live in water as warm as our water gets in the summers....They want to go deep to find the cooler water, but there's no oxygen down there...Whether it be that they're too hard headed or not smart enough to move up in the water column...In the 0-20ft depth range there's enough dissolved O2 to sustain all the fish in the given lake 1000's of times over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbyrd View Post
    Ok, think of this on a smaller scale, Is it easier to keep one fish alive in your live well during the summer or 5. Each and everything that removes any parts per milllion of dissolved o2 from the water contribute to the balancing act !!!!!
    Except we are not talking on a smaller scale, we are talking about almost 28,000 acres spread out over parts of two states. Using your logic, there are far too many walleye and stripers in Cumberland because them suckers having been dying for years. There is no way it could be related to the lower water levels and dam repair! Heck, Dale Hollow has not even reached summer pool this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by know1 View Post
    I haven't been keeping up with the fishing boards much, but I headed over to the smalljaw site when I saw this thread and it is definitely a smallmouth kill. TWRA is on it and a post from a week or so ago had 158 dead smallies at that time.
    I was wondering Know1 if the 158 smallies that we're found dead were they in the same area of lake or found scattered all over the lake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbyrd View Post
    They do know the answer HOT WATER. LOW 02 levels. But can't be helped mother nature doing her balancing act. Dale has such a strick limit on it that the smallmouth population has exploded. TOO many fish for the amount of 02 and duh..... Wonder when they are going to admit that their plan for a instant new world record from dale didn't work. The slot limit helped the amount of 4 -6 lb fish but it also has added more fish taking from the amount of forage and using o2.
    This is like saying we are in danger of running out of O2 because humans are breathing too much air. The amount of O2 fish take in from Dale Hollow is too small to be even the slightest factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishin is life View Post
    It's not that there's not enough dissolved O2 in the water, it's that the fish don't find it....As the water heats up down deep, the thermocline, and dissolved oxygen levels push up in the water column....Fish like smallmouth, walleye, and stripers that aren't really meant to live in water as warm as our water gets in the summers....They want to go deep to find the cooler water, but there's no oxygen down there...Whether it be that they're too hard headed or not smart enough to move up in the water column...In the 0-20ft depth range there's enough dissolved O2 to sustain all the fish in the given lake 1000's of times over
    DING DING DING....We have a winner.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by newriver View Post
    No there are not to many fish in Dale to compete for available O2. There are however fish that are stressed due to the temps. That happens, its normal for some to die out. 158 fish does not put a dent in the numbers.1058 would not hurt it. And the smell from down near the lower end comes from a oil well that has been leaking for 40 years. If you look at google earth and go back through the years you can actually see the sheen from the oil and where it originates. Has not bothered the fish or the fishing except it put a coating of oil on your line and boat.
    DING DING DING....................Sorry we have two winners.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRS View Post
    I was wondering Know1 if the 158 smallies that we're found dead were they in the same area of lake or found scattered all over the lake?
    From what I read it was all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newriver View Post
    No there are not to many fish in Dale to compete for available O2. There are however fish that are stressed due to the temps. That happens, its normal for some to die out. 158 fish does not put a dent in the numbers.1058 would not hurt it. And the smell from down near the lower end comes from a oil well that has been leaking for 40 years. If you look at google earth and go back through the years you can actually see the sheen from the oil and where it originates. Has not bothered the fish or the fishing except it put a coating of oil on your line and boat.
    Does that oil film stay on the lake all the time? Also does it have the distinct odor of diesel fuel because that is what it smelled like to us.

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