Govt shutdown

[peter]

Went to NOAA to look at the weather and found this.

In the scond image the the second sentence cancels out the first sentence.
Maybe a scare tactic?

[MrSplitshot]

The person who normally writes the web copy and proofreads announcements must be furloughed.

You know, I'm a Republican...but I think this Government Shutdown makes the GOP look like the biggest bunch of morons that ever was.

Whether you agree with Obamacare or not...and I'm not saying that I do...it's the law. It worked through the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches of the Federal Government. It was signed into law and the Supreme Court ruled that it was not Unconstitutional. Like it or not, agree with it or not, the debate was had. It's time to deal with the consequences. Let the people who voted for these turds and wanted Obamacare see how great it's going to be.

BUT, for the Republicans to hold it hostage in this Debt Ceiling/Budget debate seems asinine to me. They can whine and cry that the Democrats won't compromise with them, but honestly...should they have to? Didn't we have the Obamacare debates already? Did it not pass and become signed into law? I don't think they should have to compromise on it, even though I don't like a lot of what Obamacare stands for. What's the GOP strategy here? The Tea Party has basically hijacked the joint. We have shut the government down, furloughed 800K federal employees, which is estimated to cost the economy $300 Million per day. Meanwhile, Obamacare takes affect anyway. The Republicans are being painted in a horrible light all over the country. Meanwhile, they are trying to pass bills back through today to re-fund certain parts of the government so that they can open back up...a piece-meal backdoor deal...on everything that the Democrats throw in their face, except for things that help fund Obamacare. The Democrats aren't going to vote yea for those bills, which are an obvious backdoor, so now the Republicans are going to call them on it as more political grandstanding.

This is unbelievably political. This whole WWII Memorial Thing is a joke too. It's a free standing concrete memorial. Why does it need to be barricaded up and shutdown?? A prime example of how unbelievably red-tape laden and paralyzed the Federal Government can make something something so simple. (And we want these people to handle our healthcare, right?)

This is so stupid. I'm sick of every one of the rotten SOBs.

[GeoFisher]

The person who normally writes the web copy and proofreads announcements must be furloughed.

You know, I'm a Republican...but I think this Government Shutdown makes the GOP look like the biggest bunch of morons that ever was.

Whether you agree with Obamacare or not...and I'm not saying that I do...it's the law. It worked through the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches of the Federal Government. It was signed into law and the Supreme Court ruled that it was not Unconstitutional. Like it or not, agree with it or not, the debate was had. It's time to deal with the consequences. Let the people who voted for these turds and wanted Obamacare see how great it's going to be.

BUT, for the Republicans to hold it hostage in this Debt Ceiling/Budget debate seems asinine to me. They can whine and cry that the Democrats won't compromise with them, but honestly...should they have to? Didn't we have the Obamacare debates already? Did it not pass and become signed into law? I don't think they should have to compromise on it, even though I don't like a lot of what Obamacare stands for. What's the GOP strategy here? The Tea Party has basically hijacked the joint. We have shut the government down, furloughed 800K federal employees, which is estimated to cost the economy $300 Million per day. Meanwhile, Obamacare takes affect anyway. The Republicans are being painted in a horrible light all over the country. Meanwhile, they are trying to pass bills back through today to re-fund certain parts of the government so that they can open back up...a piece-meal backdoor deal...on everything that the Democrats throw in their face, except for things that help fund Obamacare. The Democrats aren't going to vote yea for those bills, which are an obvious backdoor, so now the Republicans are going to call them on it as more political grandstanding.

This is unbelievably political. This whole WWII Memorial Thing is a joke too. It's a free standing concrete memorial. Why does it need to be barricaded up and shutdown?? A prime example of how unbelievably red-tape laden and paralyzed the Federal Government can make something something so simple. (And we want these people to handle our healthcare, right?)

This is so stupid. I'm sick of every one of the rotten SOBs.

They SHOULD hold the Democrats and the SPENDERS to a debt ceiling. AND they should UNFUND ObamaCare.

What is asinine is the DEMOCRATS pushing through a bill without the funding BEFORE an election and then waiting until after a SHITBAG president is re elected and then pulling the bull crap they have been pulling.

Sorry, but you're pissed at the wrong party.

And for the record.......this is how LEFTISTS want you to feel. Look up Rules for Radicals, by Alinsky. THAT is exactly what they expect. Beat you down until you don't give a crap, and then you don't give a crap. When you DON'T give a crap, they win.......you lose. Simple.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

It has been their playbook forever...........keep the faith, keep fighting. Democratism.....my NEW word, is killing our country, and if you don't fight for it, your children and your childrens children will have no chance.

Sorry, but I'm all for the CHAOS we're seeing. There should be chaos, and there should be accountability for the spending.

Later,

Geo

[DJD]

They SHOULD hold the Democrats and the SPENDERS to a debt ceiling. AND they should UNFUND ObamaCare.

What is asinine is the DEMOCRATS pushing through a bill without the funding BEFORE an election and then waiting until after a SHITBAG president is re elected and then pulling the bull crap they have been pulling.

Sorry, but you're pissed at the wrong party.

And for the record.......this is how LEFTISTS want you to feel. Look up Rules for Radicals, by Alinsky. THAT is exactly what they expect. Beat you down until you don't give a crap, and then you don't give a crap. When you DON'T give a crap, they win.......you lose. Simple.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

It has been their playbook forever...........keep the faith, keep fighting. Democratism.....my NEW word, is killing our country, and if you don't fight for it, your children and your childrens children will have no chance.

Sorry, but I'm all for the CHAOS we're seeing. There should be chaos, and there should be accountability for the spending.

Later,

Geo

i do hold the democrats more responsible than the GOP. I also hold Obama more responsible than the party itself. He is smart, charming and good spokesperson but very divisive. Articles I have read about this keep talking about national monuments and parks shutting down but you know what??? I could care less!!! This is important and a park closing means squat to me. What pisses me off is the obamacare lie and the bill that was passed into law. This law was passed without Obie's promises being kept of transparency and all that garbage.it was under funded as everyone thought but they pushed some mumbo jumbo crap into the media to say it was fine. They lied at every turn and I for one do not forgive them and if this has to get worse than worse to stop this tyrant and his band of looney fools then keep it shutdown for another year. Let's see how bad things really get and then see how many people get upset enough to stand up.


This has to be fought even if it's a loss because in the long run this fight will go down as the turning point of the downfall of the American dream. All because some Liberal know it all legislators and potus wanted to put more people on the gubment teat and millions of FOOLS fell for it. I am very disappointed in that fact....people actually fell for this! We have example after example of what complete failures the gubment can be but fools wanted more. They actually believe that a group of men and women who are rich beyond anything we will ever see want to sit back and out of the goodness of their heart get healthcare to every American a reality. Really??? Did we try this with housing?? What happened there? Did we try this with social security?? What happened there? How about public education??? What happened there?? Oh yeah this is different it's healthcare.....bull dung it's the exact same.....a gubment controlled program.

Like I said this needs to be fought till it can't be fought anymore. Let the ivory tower crumble, let the idiots feed on each other like cannibals and destroy themselves. Maybe that's what we need? A revolution! Make these idiots accountable.

[kygorski]

Eventualy I knew someone would bring that up. So what would change? In a short matter of time, the rich would still be rich, the poor poorer, the middle class would be almost non existant. It may be closer than we think.f the government goes into default, ALL federal programs might bite the dust. And when the riots start, and martial law is declared,who do you shoot?

[jcb]

The person who normally writes the web copy and proofreads announcements must be furloughed.

You know, I'm a Republican...but I think this Government Shutdown makes the GOP look like the biggest bunch of morons that ever was.

Whether you agree with Obamacare or not...and I'm not saying that I do...it's the law. It worked through the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches of the Federal Government. It was signed into law and the Supreme Court ruled that it was not Unconstitutional. Like it or not, agree with it or not, the debate was had. It's time to deal with the consequences. Let the people who voted for these turds and wanted Obamacare see how great it's going to be.

BUT, for the Republicans to hold it hostage in this Debt Ceiling/Budget debate seems asinine to me. They can whine and cry that the Democrats won't compromise with them, but honestly...should they have to? Didn't we have the Obamacare debates already? Did it not pass and become signed into law? I don't think they should have to compromise on it, even though I don't like a lot of what Obamacare stands for. What's the GOP strategy here? The Tea Party has basically hijacked the joint. We have shut the government down, furloughed 800K federal employees, which is estimated to cost the economy $300 Million per day. Meanwhile, Obamacare takes affect anyway. The Republicans are being painted in a horrible light all over the country. Meanwhile, they are trying to pass bills back through today to re-fund certain parts of the government so that they can open back up...a piece-meal backdoor deal...on everything that the Democrats throw in their face, except for things that help fund Obamacare. The Democrats aren't going to vote yea for those bills, which are an obvious backdoor, so now the Republicans are going to call them on it as more political grandstanding.

This is unbelievably political. This whole WWII Memorial Thing is a joke too. It's a free standing concrete memorial. Why does it need to be barricaded up and shutdown?? A prime example of how unbelievably red-tape laden and paralyzed the Federal Government can make something something so simple. (And we want these people to handle our healthcare, right?)

This is so stupid. I'm sick of every one of the rotten SOBs.

Agree 100% and just said essentially the same thing to all my co-workers. I always vote conservative, but I am totally disgusted with the GOP.

How many times have we heard about "the rule of law" when these posers reached in their front suit pocket and pulled out their copy of the Constitution? Obamacare is the law. It passed both houses, the president signed it, and the Supreme Court upheld its constitutionality. I think that was a horrible decision by the Court, but it's the one they made.

This isn't about principle. They have none, except the principle of re-election. This whole debacle has occurred so some SuperPAC can run ads in the next election cycle with more half-truths.

[know1]

I don't think Obama"surance" has anything to do with this. The issue is whether to raise the debt ceiling and I say we shouldn't.

Here's the question I don't see anyone asking: If the government is shut down, shouldn't they start refunding our tax dollars that they're not using?

[jcb]

I don't think Obama"surance" has anything to do with this. The issue is whether to raise the debt ceiling and I say we shouldn't.

Here's the question I don't see anyone asking: If the government is shut down, shouldn't they start refunding our tax dollars that they're not using?

Huh? Obamacare is the whole reason we're in shutdown mode. Rather than pass a clean Continuing Resolution (CR), the House has tacked on amendments to delay Obamacare implementation, delay the individual mandate, repeal medical devices tax, etc.

The debt ceiling issue won't hit the fan until Oct. 17.

[know1]

Huh? Obamacare is the whole reason we're in shutdown mode. Rather than pass a clean Continuing Resolution (CR), the House has tacked on amendments to delay Obamacare implementation, delay the individual mandate, repeal medical devices tax, etc.

The debt ceiling issue won't hit the fan until Oct. 17.

OK. Let's say those aren't tacked on. If they refuse to raise the debt ceiling then we'll be right back where we are in 2 weeks.

And I do not want them to raise it, but I know that they ultimately will.

[jcb]

Yep, they'll raise it after they find a way to score whatever political points they feel like they need to score.

[know1]

When will they ever stop raising it? We should demand it.

[HURRICANEBOB]

Worst part about the wife being furloughed is since she doesn't go to Knox each day, she can't buy and deliver my beer rations.

Wish both parties would accept a compromised position of "OPTIONAL" Obamacare. I think all free Americans ought be able to decide for themselves, and all US Business ought be able too.