A thought on Obamacare and Gubment Shutdown

[DJD]

We hear about the closings of national parks and monuments during this shutdown. I guess a liberal minded person may feel its legit to close these places while conservatives see it as crying over spilled milk by the potus and his brain trust. I see it as the latter.

My thought is fast forward 5-10 years and assume we actually have obamacare in place and millions upon millions get coverage through this plan...with me? Now the gubment needs to raise the debt ceiling to 25 trillion because they don't have spending under control....still!!! What do you think they will do with healthcare then?? What do you suppose they will say about having no choice but in raising the debt ceiling or possibly refusing care to millions of people? What gubment subsidized program will be used as the reason for needing more money via taxes??? Think they would use healthcare as more fear tactics? The sad part is it will be so imbedded into our lives that it is true. We will be held hostage over yet another gubment program.

The gubmnet already spends how many trillion a year over the revenue they collect?? Get that?? Every year they spend more than they collect....do any of you do that??? Who in their right mind thinks that shoving obamacare into our lives with its astronomical costs and unforeseen effects is the right thing?? Yeah yeah it seems great to people who just think about now, want to drink liberal koolaid or IMO are fooled into thinking its good for the country to go to socialistic healthcare.

Can you see why the gubment does not need to be in our healthcare system more then they already were??? They are in it for one thing and that's money. I can guaranty they want more tax revenue so they can spend more and snake their way further into our lives and hold us hostage. People WAKE UP!!! my God what does it take to make people understand? We have a potus that mocked the GOP and others (he was a no show senator at the time) for needing a raised debt ceiling in the 9 trillion mark. Now look at him as the potus with 17 trillion debt.....whose fault is it now??? The liberals have an answer?? What about the presidents budget?? Ohhhh yeah he never had one....wow what a leader huh?? It's his way of spending and buying votes at the expense of every tax paying citizen or the highway.... Again I ask when will people wake up?? Why is giving away our generations of work ethic, world power, world image and money worth it?? Because this pompous liar and his party says so???

Also look at it this way....they have had how long to get this up and running? Spent how much money? Hired how many more gubment workers? (That is supposed to help save money how?) How many times Did they push the deadline back on implementing this? Wasn't it supposed to address healthcare costs and not just subsidize costs but actually fix something? Or are we seeing yet another program full of bull that was presented to the gullible Americans as shiny gold nuggets when in reality it was shined up turds that will stink until this is stopped. I call turds!

[MrSplitshot]

I feel like the premise behind Obamacare is for folks with a little money in the bank and health insurance to pay more for less, so that those with nothing can have something.

Call it whatever fancy government acronym you want...but that's redistribution of wealth at the end of the day.

I'd love for everyone to be able to afford healthcare. I just don't want to foot their bill. Call me cold hearted, but I pay enough.

I think that those truly in need, because they can't work, should have government programs to prop them up and allow them to have a fighting chance and survive. The problem is that whole "can't work" qualifier. It'll never be clean, and I get that...

But promoting it and allowing the government to get bigger and bigger and come farther and farther into our lives is a big mistake.

These people can't even pass a budget, balance a checkbook, or keep a **** statue "open" for people to walk up and look at. They know best about healthcare?

[DJD]

I feel like the premise behind Obamacare is for folks with a little money in the bank and health insurance to pay more for less, so that those with nothing can have something.

Call it whatever fancy government acronym you want...but that's redistribution of wealth at the end of the day.

I'd love for everyone to be able to afford healthcare. I just don't want to foot their bill. Call me cold hearted, but I pay enough.

I think that those truly in need, because they can't work, should have government programs to prop them up and allow them to have a fighting chance and survive. The problem is that whole "can't work" qualifier. It'll never be clean, and I get that...

But promoting it and allowing the government to get bigger and bigger and come farther and farther into our lives is a big mistake.

These people can't even pass a budget, balance a checkbook, or keep a **** statue "open" for people to walk up and look at. They know best about healthcare?

Totally agree about helping those in need. The corruption of free gubment money has made me cold hearted first and compassionate second. The list of incompetent, reckless, expensive, failed, corrupt, unnecessary and tax thirsty gubment programs is embarrassing. Obama and his party knows how stupid most Americans are and they preyed on that. History will prove this because any current info is squashed or restricted by these crooks.

[GeoFisher]

We have created a sub-society that knows nothing but how to TAKE from the gubment. They don't know how to cope, they don't know how to hunt, they don't know now to grow food, they don't know how to can, the don't know nothing but how to open their hand and take from UNCLE Sugar.....

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize we are just a few steps away from the riots that occurred in Greece and France over their austerity programs, or the Gubment of Cyprus taking 25% of every single private savings account if that account had over 100,000 in it.

Yea, LIBTARDS, that happened: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/24/bu...deal.html?_r=0


When we get to that point, and we WILL, that sub-society that knows nothing except how to take from gubment will try to TAKE from private citizens. When that happens, and it will, there will be lots and lots and lots of dead people around.

Again I'm not a conspiracy theorists, but I guaran- DAMNED - tee you I know folks what will defend their property and their way of life to the death.........some of those folks are on here.

Maybe there is something to the FEMA camps, and the ammo shortages, and the 100,000 coffins being stored by DHS, and the MRAPS purchased by FEMA.......

Later,

Geo