Where is everyone????

[kygorski]

Is there another site for fishin.com? Or did everyone quit posting?I don't know how to tweet, or twitter. I am not a face book user, so if thats where you huys went, adios.

[Moveon]

I don't post much anymore and wanted to see if anyone else would take the lead. But since we stopped talking about politics there is not much new stuff to talk about. I mean there are only so many ways to catch a fish. We have covered most of the fishing related stuff over the past ten years or so.

I'd like to know if the IDNR is going to repair some of our lakes launch ramps.

I did drive up to Patoka Lake to fish but it rained the day we were suppose to go out on the lake. So all we did was look at the very best Corp of Engineer Fishing maps (Indiana Plane Coordinates Maps of the lake before it was flooded). And talk about old TV shows that we use to watch. I did get to eat a great breakfast at a little Truck Stop in Birdseye, IN. I had a good time. But I lost my $70 Samsung Level U headset on this trip. I thinking that when I took it off and plugged it into charge it the dog may have chewed it up and taken it somewhere in the cabin to hide it. I checked all my bags and clothing and suit case and sacks and stuff and it was definitely missing. So I must have left it some where inside my friends cabin at the lake. If he finds it he'll call me and save it for me. But it can't just vanish like that. Last time I remember seeing it was either when I first got to the campground and took it off to store it inside my truck on the console or when I went inside and took it off to charge it. I use it to listen to music via the cell phone when I'm driving. I have 3 gigs of data each month to use on my smartphone. So I figure out how to send the music in my phone to a Bluetooth devise. It beats trying to dial in a FM radio Station when going up I-64 for 40 miles to the lake. Those hills make it hard to keep a station on the radio. I can't go anywhere these days without my headset radio or my Level U devise and my Smartphone.

I wish that I could have those paper maps on my Smartphone in a digital form that I could use with the built in GPS in the smartphone. I wish that there was an ap for that.

Is there another site for fishin.com? Or did everyone quit posting?I don't know how to tweet, or twitter. I am not a face book user, so if thats where you huys went, adios.

[GeoFisher]

fun, ain't it.

[GeoFisher]

I don't post much anymore and wanted to see if anyone else would take the lead. But since we stopped talking about politics there is not much new stuff to talk about. I mean there are only so many ways to catch a fish. We have covered most of the fishing related stuff over the past ten years or so.

I'd like to know if the IDNR is going to repair some of our lakes launch ramps.

I did drive up to Patoka Lake to fish but it rained the day we were suppose to go out on the lake. So all we did was look at the very best Corp of Engineer Fishing maps (Indiana Plane Coordinates Maps of the lake before it was flooded). And talk about old TV shows that we use to watch. I did get to eat a great breakfast at a little Truck Stop in Birdseye, IN. I had a good time. But I lost my $70 Samsung Level U headset on this trip. I thinking that when I took it off and plugged it into charge it the dog may have chewed it up and taken it somewhere in the cabin to hide it. I checked all my bags and clothing and suit case and sacks and stuff and it was definitely missing. So I must have left it some where inside my friends cabin at the lake. If he finds it he'll call me and save it for me. But it can't just vanish like that. Last time I remember seeing it was either when I first got to the campground and took it off to store it inside my truck on the console or when I went inside and took it off to charge it. I use it to listen to music via the cell phone when I'm driving. I have 3 gigs of data each month to use on my smartphone. So I figure out how to send the music in my phone to a Bluetooth devise. It beats trying to dial in a FM radio Station when going up I-64 for 40 miles to the lake. Those hills make it hard to keep a station on the radio. I can't go anywhere these days without my headset radio or my Level U devise and my Smartphone.

I wish that I could have those paper maps on my Smartphone in a digital form that I could use with the built in GPS in the smartphone. I wish that there was an ap for that.

Where did you see those maps at.......I've seen some at the corps office, but they were not that good.

If you have access, you can use your smart phone to take pics of the individual maps, and they will zoom pretty good if you have a phone that is reasonably new.........

Tell me where you got access, and I will be sure to try to secure some high def pics with a high def camera. I have access to a 50 mp camera........

Yea, baby.

[Bill M of NJ]

I was there that week in the 1000 islands region, awesome smallie : http://www.dec.ny.gov/press/107957.html

[Moveon]

My friend lives in Georgetown, IN and when the lake first opened up he drove over to Louisville, KY and talked to the Corp of Engineer's guy who did the survey. The guy flew over the lake area before it was flooded. They used high image cameras and stereoscopic views to draw these high resolution maps. Each map is big. Each Map page is about the size of a regular 7.5 Quadrangle UTM map. But where one regular 7.5 Quadrangle UTM map covers the entire area of Patoka lake these Indiana Plane Maps cover a smaller section of the lake in much more details. I think my friend copied about 30 pages to cover the entire lake. They have to all be spliced back together to allow the entire lake to be seen and that the part that got me stuck. The original maps are laminated and probably still at the Corp's Office in Louisville. For a fee they will let you copy them.

If you try to scan them into a computer you need a lot of processing power as the maps are so big and so many of them have to be spliced together. If you scan them in high resolution on your computer scanner then the files become huge and take way too long to work with on the computer. 72 dpi would be a good resolution to scan them. If you scan them at 600 dpi the file size gets into the high megabyte and the program that I used to try to splice them together would not handle those huge file sizes.

I have digital copies of each page of the map. But I had to copy 1/4 of each page at a time in order to fit the map into the legal page size scanner window. So multiply 30 x 4 to figure out how many pages I have in digital form. To splice all those back together into one big map is a huge daunting task that I didn't have the patience to finish.

My scanner kept stopping on me. Later I figured out that I needed to plug the USB cord into a Powered USB device and add more power to the Scanner. My computer was a Windows XP OS and only 1 Mhz CPU and I needed much more power than that to do this job. And I scanned ever 1/4 page of the 30 maps at 600 dpi. So I need to go back and for each scanned page reduce it from 600 dpi to 72 dpi before I can even start to splice them back together.

I have two more powerful computers that can do the job now but I'm not even fishing anymore. I started a new hobby and it's taking all my fishing time away. I can't even get the boat out of the garage as all my shooting equipment is loaded in boxes and sitting in front of my boat in the garage. So when I go shooting all I have to do is load up the boxed in the back of my truck and go to the range. My boat is gathering spider webs these days.

I think that this would be a good project for someone with more computer power and a much larger scanner that could scan one of these pages at one time. I think that each page is like 13" wide by 19" long. So there is a lot of detailed information on each page. My scanner bed is only 8" by 10" for regular papers.

I used Paint Shop Pro to try to spice the digital maps together and it was limited in the file sizes that I could use. Thus I never did get the project finished. I still have all the digital maps on a hard drive some where. I think they are still on my old computer's hard drive and also on an external hard drive that I used as a back up device. I backed up all my files at one time on that external Western Digital hard drive. So I could connect that old hard drive with my new laptop computer and load up the files and try again to splice them together. But I'd have to convert all the files from paint shop pro files to adobe Photo Shop Elements files and that is a real pain to do.

Each page shows small ditches that were there before the lake was flood. But my friend who has the big Humminbird Side Scanning Sonar unit said that most all the old ditches and some of the old creeks are silted in now. It's been silting in since 1978 and it's 2016 now. That's 38 years of silt settling into those old ditches. I'm not sure but I think that the maps also show old fence lines or at least they are old PROPERTY lines and each area of the map shows the property owners names. These were the property owners of record before they lake was flooded. There are buildings shown on the map and it also shows the most important information IMHO. The old roadways and culverts and bridges that were there at one time. Some of the super structures of those old bridges that crossed the Patoka River were removed and and some were concrete in nature and may still be there. My friend and I went over one such bridge in one of the bays and using the high frequency setting 800 KHz we could see the bride structure on the screen easily. That Bridge holds fish. But many of the bridges are too deep to fish in the hot summer months as they are all below the thermocline and there is not much dissolved oxygen down there in the hot summer months. Now in the Winter those bridges might hold some huge fish. After the turn over they maybe more productive until the next summer. So during late fall and winter and early spring these spots can hold fish. Its' amazing the amount of information in these maps. They are some of the best maps of Patoka Lake that I have ever seen in the last 38 years. The only thing they don't show is the Tree and Tire Fish Attractors that the Corp put into the lake as it was being made. Those are not marked on the map.

And finally the map coordinate system is not the regular longitude and latitude map coordinates that we all use on our GPS units. So one has to convert the Indiana Plane Map coordinates to Long and Lat in order to use the way points and find these spots on these maps. That's a real pain to do.

I have copies of my friends maps and they are copies of a copy so they are not that great. I can still see everything on them but after going up to my friends camp last week and looking at his map copies It told me that my copies of his copy was more faint and not as good.

Still he and I both have a good idea about where the bridge are located and with our Side scanning Sonar Units we can locate the old bridge and roads that once crossed the old Patoka River Channel and mark them on our GPS units as a way point. Once that's done we won't need to look at the paper maps much anymore.

There is one spot that is well marked on the maps sold at the stores around the lake. It's a point next to the old river been on the main lake with what shows as a creek running into the bend in the Patoka River Channel not for from the mouth of a bay and the point of land on one side of the mouth of the bay is within 100 yards of the intersection of the river and the creek. But the lake maps for sale at the boat marinas don't tell the entire story. They don't show the creek running all the way back into the back of the bay and it breaking up in to smaller ditches that slit up and run into the back of the bay. The area in the middle of these ditches is a hot spot filled with brush and lots of nice fat crappie. The Patoka Lake Crappie Guide knows this spot as once while I was fishing this spot he ran up on us in his boat and make a commotion with his wake. We both had our boats on this spot and he eyeballed us for a few minutes before he took off again as fast as he came in there. Some guys have no respect for other fishermen. We continued to catch fish.

We have another father/son boat come into the area and politely asked if they could fish this spot with us and we said of course and helped them find some fish. They were also fishing the same crappie fishing tournament that day. My friend and I both caught a limit of crappie that day out of this spot and could have easily place pretty high up in the Crappie Tournament if we had entered it. But we don't like to fish that way. I fish for meat and my friend fishes for his own reasons. He's up there every day almost and he's been fishing Patoka for the last 38 years now. He's waiting for the water to cool down right now. He thinks it too hot to fish these days. The day we were going out it was overcast and only 68 deg F. A perfect day for fishing except for the rain and winds. I didn't have my rain gear with me as I was not wanting to fish in the rain. I'd rather just sit around and BS than fish in the rain. We went to breakfast and then just stayed at his camp until it was time for me to go back home. They all have golf carts up at this trailer camp and we rode around in the golf cart and talked to different people who lived in this camp.

So if you call up the Corp of Engineers in Louisville, KY and talk to them I'm sure they would let you come over there and make copies of these maps for yourself. They charge a fee to do this though. But if you enjoy looking at the maps and studying them to find new fishing spots on Patoka Lake they will help you do that for sure.

Where did you see those maps at.......I've seen some at the corps office, but they were not that good.

If you have access, you can use your smart phone to take pics of the individual maps, and they will zoom pretty good if you have a phone that is reasonably new.........

Tell me where you got access, and I will be sure to try to secure some high def pics with a high def camera. I have access to a 50 mp camera........

Yea, baby.

[Dobe Mejuwa]

My friend lives in Georgetown, IN and when the lake first opened up he drove over to Louisville, KY and talked to the Corp of Engineer's guy who did the survey. The guy flew over the lake area before it was flooded. They used high image cameras and stereoscopic views to draw these high resolution maps. Each map is big. Each Map page is about the size of a regular 7.5 Quadrangle UTM map. But where one regular 7.5 Quadrangle UTM map covers the entire area of Patoka lake these Indiana Plane Maps cover a smaller section of the lake in much more details. I think my friend copied about 30 pages to cover the entire lake. They have to all be spliced back together to allow the entire lake to be seen and that the part that got me stuck. The original maps are laminated and probably still at the Corp's Office in Louisville. For a fee they will let you copy them.

If you try to scan them into a computer you need a lot of processing power as the maps are so big and so many of them have to be spliced together. If you scan them in high resolution on your computer scanner then the files become huge and take way too long to work with on the computer. 72 dpi would be a good resolution to scan them. If you scan them at 600 dpi the file size gets into the high megabyte and the program that I used to try to splice them together would not handle those huge file sizes.

I have digital copies of each page of the map. But I had to copy 1/4 of each page at a time in order to fit the map into the legal page size scanner window. So multiply 30 x 4 to figure out how many pages I have in digital form. To splice all those back together into one big map is a huge daunting task that I didn't have the patience to finish.

My scanner kept stopping on me. Later I figured out that I needed to plug the USB cord into a Powered USB device and add more power to the Scanner. My computer was a Windows XP OS and only 1 Mhz CPU and I needed much more power than that to do this job. And I scanned ever 1/4 page of the 30 maps at 600 dpi. So I need to go back and for each scanned page reduce it from 600 dpi to 72 dpi before I can even start to splice them back together.

I have two more powerful computers that can do the job now but I'm not even fishing anymore. I started a new hobby and it's taking all my fishing time away. I can't even get the boat out of the garage as all my shooting equipment is loaded in boxes and sitting in front of my boat in the garage. So when I go shooting all I have to do is load up the boxed in the back of my truck and go to the range. My boat is gathering spider webs these days.

I think that this would be a good project for someone with more computer power and a much larger scanner that could scan one of these pages at one time. I think that each page is like 13" wide by 19" long. So there is a lot of detailed information on each page. My scanner bed is only 8" by 10" for regular papers.

I used Paint Shop Pro to try to spice the digital maps together and it was limited in the file sizes that I could use. Thus I never did get the project finished. I still have all the digital maps on a hard drive some where. I think they are still on my old computer's hard drive and also on an external hard drive that I used as a back up device. I backed up all my files at one time on that external Western Digital hard drive. So I could connect that old hard drive with my new laptop computer and load up the files and try again to splice them together. But I'd have to convert all the files from paint shop pro files to adobe Photo Shop Elements files and that is a real pain to do.

Each page shows small ditches that were there before the lake was flood. But my friend who has the big Humminbird Side Scanning Sonar unit said that most all the old ditches and some of the old creeks are silted in now. It's been silting in since 1978 and it's 2016 now. That's 38 years of silt settling into those old ditches. I'm not sure but I think that the maps also show old fence lines or at least they are old PROPERTY lines and each area of the map shows the property owners names. These were the property owners of record before they lake was flooded. There are buildings shown on the map and it also shows the most important information IMHO. The old roadways and culverts and bridges that were there at one time. Some of the super structures of those old bridges that crossed the Patoka River were removed and and some were concrete in nature and may still be there. My friend and I went over one such bridge in one of the bays and using the high frequency setting 800 KHz we could see the bride structure on the screen easily. That Bridge holds fish. But many of the bridges are too deep to fish in the hot summer months as they are all below the thermocline and there is not much dissolved oxygen down there in the hot summer months. Now in the Winter those bridges might hold some huge fish. After the turn over they maybe more productive until the next summer. So during late fall and winter and early spring these spots can hold fish. Its' amazing the amount of information in these maps. They are some of the best maps of Patoka Lake that I have ever seen in the last 38 years. The only thing they don't show is the Tree and Tire Fish Attractors that the Corp put into the lake as it was being made. Those are not marked on the map.

And finally the map coordinate system is not the regular longitude and latitude map coordinates that we all use on our GPS units. So one has to convert the Indiana Plane Map coordinates to Long and Lat in order to use the way points and find these spots on these maps. That's a real pain to do.

I have copies of my friends maps and they are copies of a copy so they are not that great. I can still see everything on them but after going up to my friends camp last week and looking at his map copies It told me that my copies of his copy was more faint and not as good.

Still he and I both have a good idea about where the bridge are located and with our Side scanning Sonar Units we can locate the old bridge and roads that once crossed the old Patoka River Channel and mark them on our GPS units as a way point. Once that's done we won't need to look at the paper maps much anymore.

There is one spot that is well marked on the maps sold at the stores around the lake. It's a point next to the old river been on the main lake with what shows as a creek running into the bend in the Patoka River Channel not for from the mouth of a bay and the point of land on one side of the mouth of the bay is within 100 yards of the intersection of the river and the creek. But the lake maps for sale at the boat marinas don't tell the entire story. They don't show the creek running all the way back into the back of the bay and it breaking up in to smaller ditches that slit up and run into the back of the bay. The area in the middle of these ditches is a hot spot filled with brush and lots of nice fat crappie. The Patoka Lake Crappie Guide knows this spot as once while I was fishing this spot he ran up on us in his boat and make a commotion with his wake. We both had our boats on this spot and he eyeballed us for a few minutes before he took off again as fast as he came in there. Some guys have no respect for other fishermen. We continued to catch fish.

We have another father/son boat come into the area and politely asked if they could fish this spot with us and we said of course and helped them find some fish. They were also fishing the same crappie fishing tournament that day. My friend and I both caught a limit of crappie that day out of this spot and could have easily place pretty high up in the Crappie Tournament if we had entered it. But we don't like to fish that way. I fish for meat and my friend fishes for his own reasons. He's up there every day almost and he's been fishing Patoka for the last 38 years now. He's waiting for the water to cool down right now. He thinks it too hot to fish these days. The day we were going out it was overcast and only 68 deg F. A perfect day for fishing except for the rain and winds. I didn't have my rain gear with me as I was not wanting to fish in the rain. I'd rather just sit around and BS than fish in the rain. We went to breakfast and then just stayed at his camp until it was time for me to go back home. They all have golf carts up at this trailer camp and we rode around in the golf cart and talked to different people who lived in this camp.

So if you call up the Corp of Engineers in Louisville, KY and talk to them I'm sure they would let you come over there and make copies of these maps for yourself. They charge a fee to do this though. But if you enjoy looking at the maps and studying them to find new fishing spots on Patoka Lake they will help you do that for sure.

Now don't take offense. But judging from the length of this post, the fishing right now must be TERRIBLE

[Moveon]

Now don't take offense. But judging from the length of this post, the fishing right now must be TERRIBLE

It's about time for the lakes to start turning over as the weather get's cooler. Fishing will pick up after the lakes stabilize after the turn over.

[Dobe Mejuwa]

Is there another site for fishin.com? Or did everyone quit posting?I don't know how to tweet, or twitter. I am not a face book user, so if thats where you huys went, adios.

I'm here....echo......echo.......echo

[waterdog101]

Is there another site for fishin.com? Or did everyone quit posting?I don't know how to tweet, or twitter. I am not a face book user, so if thats where you huys went, adios.

Kygorski, you know most of the guys on here are Obama supporters, and knowing their beloved President Obama will be replaced, by one of the magnificent two, just has them all to sad to be on the global communicator.

[Moveon]

Kygorski, you know most of the guys on here are Obama supporters, and knowing their beloved President Obama will be replaced, by one of the magnificent two, just has them all to sad to be on the global communicator.

See what happens in here when we take away the political talk? You guys have nothing else to talk about. It's quiet as a mouse in here. Boring too.

[kygorski]

first day in office for who ever wins, will there be a second day? I chose not to vote again this month. there was a vote for wet or dry, and I didn't care either way.Wet won, but even if it not, alcohol is only 30 miles away by package, but some of the resturants already serve drinks. Now lets have an open carry vote on firearms. H-ll yes I'm for open carry.