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My neighbor says she saw where 20/20, 48 hours, or some other news show was doing a story on a pro that was caught cheating in either BASS or FLW tournaments. Has anyone seen it or seen it advertised?

[crazyfishinnut]

look at this Is beleive this is why draw clubs are on the way out. It is hard to get a different person every month to cheat with you.http://www.wnbc.com/news/5356289/detail.html[/url]

[DJD]

Just proves again that there are losers in every sport. Shoot... i love Nascar and several teams get caught cheating once or twice a year!

[Lee]

This just the tip of the iceberg. Anyone who competes in "Buddy Tournaments" is probably going to lose to cheaters. It doesn't take much to beat a polygraph the way they are given at tournaments. Bring back the draw tournaments.

[Gregory]

My neighbor says she saw where 20/20, 48 hours, or some other news show was doing a story on a pro that was caught cheating in either BASS or FLW tournaments. Has anyone seen it or seen it advertised?

Here is the link to the show the other night on CBS.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/04/eveningnews/main3016169.shtml

[geobass]

Come on now. I have fished in both and I fish mostly draw now a days. But you cannot make that blanket of a statement. Not all buddy tournaments are won by cheaters. Look at the pro tournaments that are all draw or have an observer, several have been caught cheating.
A cheater is a cheater, they will always find a way.

[MarkW]

I agree with all comments, but I like the draw ones the best---personally, I think draw tournaments are a whole lot harder to cheat in.

[Devils Horse]

Like it or not draw clubs are on the decline, at least in our area. Nobody wants to give fishing spots and knowledge it takes years to accumulate to a stranger or someone they don't fish with regularly. Plus I think it takes a lot of guys out of their comfort zone fishing all day with someone they don't know. Then there are the 'who gets to pick the spots', 'who gets to fish off the front', and 'who buys gas' issues to deal with. Guys used to fishing together have all that squared away. Bass clubbers are for the most part in it for enjoyment, (certainly ain't for money) so the partner clubs are doing better than draws far as I can tell.

Our club, the SOKY Bassmasters out of Bowling Green have gone to a format we hope will be the best of both worlds. Points are still individual, but you can fish with anyone you want to, including guests. Provisions in the bylaws make sure members who don't own a boat will have someone to fish with.

I disagree with the 'tip of the iceberg' comments. I believe there's a VERY small percentage of people who'd sell their self respect for bass club, or local open tournament money.

I'll reserve comment on cheating with big money on the line. For me personally, I wouldn't cheat regardless of the stakes, and I believe the lion's share of people feel the same way.

[Cobra190]

I disagree with the 'tip of the iceberg' comments. I believe there's a VERY small percentage of people who'd sell their self respect for bass club, or local open tournament money.

I'll reserve comment on cheating with big money on the line. For me personally, I wouldn't cheat regardless of the stakes, and I believe the lion's share of people feel the same way.[/QUOTE]


Would have to agree with DH here. I believe a whole lot of it comes down to the person you are and would want to represent yourself as being. If you would be willing to cheat at any event at all, then you are showing what you really think of yourself, regardless of how others see you.

[dh]

I agree with Devils Horse that draw tournaments are on the way out. Buddy tournaments are much more fun,,,, or tournaments where you can fish by yourself. Usually people who make comments that cheating in tournaments are rampant have no basis for saying these things other than to say that's the reason they don't fish tournaments because either they don't like them or they don't feel like they can compete. I have been around fishing for 35 years and I think it is rare when somebody cheats in a Bass tournament. There is alot more cheating and lying going on in everyday life than there every has been in Bass tournaments. The majority of fishermen have more morals and respect for nature than the general population. Just my humble opinion....

[Danny]

*******There is alot more cheating and lying going on in everyday life than there every has been in Bass tournaments. The majority of fishermen have more morals and respect for nature than the general population.******


I realize that is your opinion, but remember, fishermen/women are made up of people in everyday life.

All I know is that every "buddy" club I have ever been associated with has had accusations of someone cheating. No one will step out in the open and say it, but the mumblings/grumblings are always going on. I know I fished an open buddy tournament, two anglers came in with a ton of fish, while the other 25 or so teams had zero to modest numbers. The fish from the two with the huge poundage were all bloody on their noses. I asked about this, and was told it was from pulling them out of the bushes. It was a February tournament. It does make one wonder.

Danny

PS, I'm sure you know that people can not easily change their character, and if they lie and cheat in everyday life, that will carry over to their passtimes.

[Tim_T]

Look at the pro tournaments that are all draw or have an observer, several have been caught cheating.
A cheater is a cheater, they will always find a way.

What pro tournaments have had people caught cheating?
Other than this guy only one angler has ever been caught cheating in a B.A.S.S. tournament and that was a long time ago. Now there have been people who got their days catch disqualified for fishing in an off limits area, but that is usually an accident like what happened to Mike Ike a few years ago in the Classic.