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    hey guys thought someone may find this useful, it was in a press release from the outdoor wire today.

    ON-THE-WATER BOAT TROUBLES? SAAVY BOATERS KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "TOWING" AND "SALVAGE"

    Who Pays for Each?

    On-the-water breakdowns, running aground or other mishaps can ruin a day of boating or fishing fun. But when the towboat arrives on the scene, do you know if the service is a "tow" or a "salvage" job? If you're ever in doubt, the safest bet is to ask the towboat crew. That's because there could be a big difference in the cost of each service, and it also determines who pays the bill, says Boat Owners Association of The United States (BoatU.S.).

    While there is sometimes a fine line between the towing and salvage, there are a few clear indicators that point to each. "Salvage requires the existence of 'peril' to the distressed vessel or persons aboard, or peril to the rescue boat and its crew, or the marine environment," said Vice President of BoatU.S. Towing Services Jerry Cardarelli.

    Historically and legally, salvage is any voluntary and successful rescue of a boat, its cargo, and/or passengers from peril at sea. Today that definition includes the successful avoidance of damage to a legally protected marine environment.

    Vessels hard aground, on rocks, taking on water or sunk are salvage, as are collisions, fires, breakaways or other types of immediate danger. Salvage also comes into play when specialized equipment such as pumps, air bags, or divers are called for - even if the boat is at the dock.

    All TowBoatU.S. and Vessel Assist companies are committed to informing the owner of a boat - before beginning any work - if the procedure will be declared salvage. If the owner is not on board or the conditions are so perilous and the rescue of the boat requires immediate action, they'll be notified as soon as possible after saving the boat.

    "On the other hand, when there is very little or no peril or damage to the vessel - you have a towing situation," said Cardarelli. "A typical example is when you run out of gas or have a dead battery, and have subsequently dropped anchor to await for assistance. Waters are calm, you're no threat to navigation, your crew and boat are fine and there's no peril to those on the response boat." Of all of the thousands of requests for assistance made each year by boaters to BoatU.S. 24-hour Dispatch Centers, 98% are for routine towing services.

    When it comes to soft ungroundings, BoatU.S. members enjoy a special agreement with the TowBoatU.S. and Vessel Assist on-the-water towing fleets which ensures that if there is little peril and no damage to the BoatU.S. member's disabled boat, and only one towboat is needed to remove the softly grounded vessel from a shoal, it's a simple towing job. Other commercial towing companies may or may not honor this agreement.

    The Costs

    Nationwide, towing and soft ungrounding costs average about $600 and $800 respectively. These are either paid by an annual towing service plan or out-of-pocket by the boater.

    Salvage cases are usually covered by insurance - or out-of-pocket if self-insured - and are much more expensive than a tow. Salvage continues to be the way to award a rescuer who maintains a 24-hour state of readiness to risk life, limb and vessel for others, and often results in a charge based on the length of the vessel saved or a request for a percentage of the boat's post-casualty value. While it's a reward for extraordinary service, the dollar amount awarded factors in the degree of peril as well as the risk to the salvor and their crew.

    "There are significant expenses in operating and maintaining a towing operation," says Cardarelli, "such as Captain's and staff salaries, insurance, equipment maintenance and increasing fuel costs, not to mention capital expenses such as towboats and other specialized recovery equipment - and it all has to be ready to go at a moment's notice," he added.

    Time and circumstances permitting, Cardarelli suggests that if it's a salvage job boaters should try to call their insurance company so they may attempt to negotiate with the salvor before the operation gets underway. If circumstances don't allow this, ask the salvor for a fixed price and try to get it in writing.

    He also says that boaters should review their boat's insurance policy to ensure it fully covers salvage. "Some policies have limits, high deductibles, or may not include environmental damage - all of which would have to be paid out of pocket," said Cardarelli.

    BoatU.S. also suggests having a copy of the BoatU.S. Open Form Yacht Salvage Contract aboard at all times, which assures that any salvage claim will go to local binding arbitration if negotiations between your insurance company and salvor fails. Designed to be more understandable, relevant to U.S. laws and potentially money saving for all parties, the Open Form Contract is available free of charge at http://www.BoatUS.com/salvage or by calling 800-937-1937.


    FOUR SALVAGE TIPS:

    · Protect yourself by having both a towing service plan for basic towing assistance needs and an insurance policy that fully covers the costs of salvage.

    · If you do have an incident, ask questions first, not later, to confirm whether the job is towing or salvage.

    · Have your insurance claims department phone number aboard. If it's salvage, you'll want to try to contact them to help negotiate a fixed price.

    · When all else fails, have a copy of BoatU.S. Open Form Yacht Salvage Contract aboard. You can get one for free at http://www.BoatUS.com/salvage

    Boat Owners Association of The United States (BoatU.S.) is the nation's leading advocate for recreational boaters providing its 650,000 members with a wide array of consumer services, including on-the-water towing assistance provided by TowBoatU.S. and Vessel Assist Pacific. Combined, these two towing fleets offer North American boaters the largest network of U.S., Canadian and Bahamian towing ports with over 280 locations and over 500 towing assistance vessels - twice that of any other service provider.

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    Some great info there for all boat owners to read...Thanks

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    Not to change the subject, but a couple of years ago, about 1:00 pmI was coming back from fishing, when I seen this boat with people waving at me, I went there, and they asked if I could give them a tow, they had two of those tube things and thery ranout of gas. I said sure, how far?When they told me, I said give me 30 bucks because I'll need to refuel to get back to my trailer. They called me a robber, said it wqsn't the right thing to do. !0 miles is a long tow, they said the cell phone wouldn't work, on dale thats always a problem. I said, you can wait here, pay me for my fuel, or I can tow you to the state park ramp, for free.I pulled away and wished them luck, got the finger. I made one stop to fisharound trooper island, and I saw that boat being towed, to the state dock. I felt right about my decision.

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    Those "poor" boater that were not smart enough to check their fuel before embarking on a day on the lake. You should of never had to ask for 30 bucks for gas. The boater should have offered to pay you 50 bucks for your time and gas you had to WASTE for their stupidity. If they would of had cell phone reception andcould of called a towing compamy, they would been more than pleased to pay you 30 bucks or from the sound of their thinking maybe not. They should of been happy that you offered your assistance. You did the right thing by leaving and they showed you their appreciation by signaling that you were #1 ..good move.

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    That tow to the state dock would have been about 3 miles, I towed some fishermen from trooper island to lillydale camp ground ramp, they offerd to pay me, said no, maybe I'll need help some day.

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