Barren Information???

[bassbug48]

Just looking for some water temperatures..I know water is 2 ft above summer. Also what is the water like down towards skaggs...And how come the dam is not open?

[smashdn]

COE is absolutely tired of fishermen at barren. They figure that if they hold the water back up in the trees and all the fish spawn they can then jerk the plug and lose a whole spawning class. two years of this already. A few more years and it will be a useless to fish at but a great sea doo lake.

[GeoFisher]

COE is absolutely tired of fishermen at barren. They figure that if they hold the water back up in the trees and all the fish spawn they can then jerk the plug and lose a whole spawning class. two years of this already. A few more years and it will be a useless to fish at but a great sea doo lake.

You REALLY think that has ANYTHING to do with it.

I bet the people downstream appreciate holding back the water........it is a FLOOD CONTROL pond, you know.

Don't you think the RAIN we've had this year has anything to do with it.

Later,

Geo

[smashdn]

You REALLY think that has ANYTHING to do with it.

I bet the people downstream appreciate holding back the water........it is a FLOOD CONTROL pond, you know.

Don't you think the RAIN we've had this year has anything to do with it.

Later,

Geo

Sarcasm, look in to it. I fish the lake probably once a week and hunt there atleast that much in the winter. I was a little puzzled as to why they brought it up to summer pool so quickly and as to why they didn't keep it about 5 or 6 foot down from summer as a kind of buffer. The COE doesn't have a problem letting water rip downstream when they need to. For the last two to three weeks the lake has been on a steady rise of 1 to 2 feet a week. And the outflow has been minimal at best, whereas before it was lapping into the cowpasture just downstream form the dam. I check the outflow and lake level everyday so I have a pretty good handle on what has been going on over there. Now as far as COE's motives or reasoning I can't tell you. However, I can get people who don't read in to posts very well riled up when they can't recognize sarcasm. I am sure that the rain may have had something to do with the lake filling up but I never made the connection, "thanks mr. obvious, your a lifesaver."

[GeoFisher]

Sarcasm, look in to it. I fish the lake probably once a week and hunt there atleast that much in the winter. I was a little puzzled as to why they brought it up to summer pool so quickly and as to why they didn't keep it about 5 or 6 foot down from summer as a kind of buffer. The COE doesn't have a problem letting water rip downstream when they need to. For the last two to three weeks the lake has been on a steady rise of 1 to 2 feet a week. And the outflow has been minimal at best, whereas before it was lapping into the cowpasture just downstream form the dam. I check the outflow and lake level everyday so I have a pretty good handle on what has been going on over there. Now as far as COE's motives or reasoning I can't tell you. However, I can get people who don't read in to posts very well riled up when they can't recognize sarcasm. I am sure that the rain may have had something to do with the lake filling up but I never made the connection, "thanks mr. obvious, your a lifesaver."

Well.......you've made 50 posts, and I have not read many of your other posts, and the sarcasm was not very apparent..........sorry.

[fishincreek]

I missed it too. Either way, high brown water and these cool temps can't help things.

[Joel_FOM]

I was in the COE office today on other business and they told me that they are dropping the bottom out of Barren starting today. They want to hit summer pool this weekend.

[smashdn]

I was in the COE office today on other business and they told me that they are dropping the bottom out of Barren starting today. They want to hit summer pool this weekend.

Figures. Why couldn't they just not hold as much water back to begin with? That way we would only have to worry about catching fish on the rise. Now we have to try and catch fish on a fast rise and on falling waters. If there was a better way to screw up the fishing at Barren I think the Corp would be all over it. It just seems so simple to think that yes we will have rains in the spring that will bring the lake up, so why not just not bring it to summer pool so quickly and keep it 5 to 8 foot below summer pool until the spring rains have tapered off somewhat? Plus let some water go too.

Bassbug that was an excellent question. My answer was just my educated opinion. To get more opinions and answers to your question you may want to post it on crappie.com forums. That is where I spend the bulk of my time as crappie are the fish that I target most. I do find this site useful for the lake levels, but the fishing reports seem pretty useless to me with the exception of Dave Stewart's as his and the lake cumberland report are the only ones that seem to get updated with any regularity.

[Joel_FOM]

I was in the COE office today on other business and they told me that they are dropping the bottom out of Barren starting today. They want to hit summer pool this weekend.

Update - the lady told me that yesterday at the COE office, but I just checked the usgs website and the water is still rising slowly. Go figure.

[bassbug48]

Yes but I do think they increased the Outflow CFS not sure what the relationship of 1910 CFS would + in inches per 24 hrs.. Anyone care to take a stab at this one..

[buzzking]

I'll take a stab at it. I've never been down there to take a look at the outflow channel but based on what it looks like at the road I would be willing to bet that based on the channel size and depth full outflow wide open with say summer pool head on the outflow would be some where in the 4-6K cfs rate. I would guess that 1900cfs would rival if not be less than what is inflowing into the lake right now. IF they have to keep it at 1900 due to downstream conditions I would look to see if level tomorrow and start falling friday, probably .3-.5 ft/day if kept at 1900. But everyday we get no rain they could open it up more.

[bassbug48]

Wow what he said......Looks like you are correct today opened up more @ 3235 cfs
draw down in last 24 hr. @ .2!!! (buzzking knows his hydro-dynamics)..You impressed me!!!!