polygraph

[raincheck]

Alot of tournament trails and open tournaments say they will use a polygraph.My question is will it hold up in a court of law?I have been told that it won't.I hope i never have too take one not because i don't want too win but i know i will not break the rules too win and if i failed,well its on too say the least.I think the best way too disqualify a team,or angler is too catch them in the act and that will hold up.Of all the tails around only a couple can aford too do a polygraph,has anyone ever failed one?I don't lie but not sure i could pass one after all its a test.I never do good on test like when i was asked too say my ABC's and failed,but was found too be sober.How can a test prove you cheated?I think its just that a test and don't prove anything but that if you failed it you will be banded from that trail and most trails around here the hear about it because anglers tell all.Just my 2cents.Terry Adolph

[Tim_T]

Alot of tournament trails and open tournaments say they will use a polygraph.My question is will it hold up in a court of law?I have been told that it won't.I hope i never have too take one not because i don't want too win but i know i will not break the rules too win and if i failed,well its on too say the least.I think the best way too disqualify a team,or angler is too catch them in the act and that will hold up.Of all the tails around only a couple can aford too do a polygraph,has anyone ever failed one?I don't lie but not sure i could pass one after all its a test.I never do good on test like when i was asked too say my ABC's and failed,but was found too be sober.How can a test prove you cheated?I think its just that a test and don't prove anything but that if you failed it you will be banded from that trail and most trails around here the hear about it because anglers tell all.Just my 2cents.Terry Adolph

It will not stand up in a court of law, but a bass tournament is not a court of law and they can and will use it. It is at the tournament directors discretion and I am not sure there would be anything you could do about it legally.

[ironhead70]

them thing dont tell the truth it told them i lied about my name bday and where i lived

[ryan_ekubass]

i just had to take one a week or so ago for fish and wildlife as part of the hiring process.... the polygraph was possibly the most nerve racking thing i have ever done because of that unknown..... but looking back i have not a clue why i was nervous.... i knew i wasnt going to lie but still... even the polygraph examiner said not a single person that comes thru the door can say they arent nervous..... but a poly graph works off 4 things... u set on a pad for the pucker factor.. u have 2 things liuke heart monitors on your fingers but they are metal and they test your sweat because when u lie u secrete a small amount of sweat.....there will be a band or 2 around your chest to test for your breathing and heart rate and also there will be a blood presure monitor.....and u have to remain perfectly still for the whole thing to work and get an accurate reading..... the guy asked me standard questions like is the lights on in the room adn if my name is ryan then he asked the other questions.... and he also asked me a math problem like what it 8 minus 7 plus 2 equal....... but he asked the questions 3 different times in different order to get the correct reading..... u cant fail a lie detector if u tell the truth cause they ask questions to get a base line thru your anxiety.... and plus if u are taking one for fishing i am sure it wont be to awful bad...... I would say it woudl be just a few questions like did u catch these fish legal and stuff like that.... but thats my 2 cents i hope i didnt bore ya...... but the polygraph is like area 51 so many myths and rumors.... and all u have to do is tell the truth......

[creeker]

I would think that by entering the tournament, you'd have to agree to take the polygraph when they stipulate. Not much different than the consent you've already given to take a breathalyzer test when you operate a boat in KY.

[RoadToad]

If you were to end up in court over a fishing tournament, it seems to me that you would most likely be in civil court, where polygraph evidence IS admissible, as opposed to criminal court, where it is not.

[joebw]

Depends on the Judge, my fishing partner is a Judge and he does not believe in them. It is strictly how the administer of the test interprets the results. It is not a proven science that they are accurate.

[raincheck]

Thanks guys for the input.Terry Adolph

[flippindrew]

Had to take one Saturday after doing well in a tournament. I passed but I cannot say I can put much faith into them. I say this because the interviewer must ask you a control question in which they hope you will lie about in attempt to see what a lie looks like on that polygraph. The first control question he asked was stupid in which no one would lie about. The second one was a bit weird, but I still did not lie about. Since I did not lie on the control questions he did not get a "control" on me and did not know what a lie looked like from me on the polygraph. Polygraphs as I can see are only as accurate as the person administering them.

The weirdest question was: If you had committed a murder, would you lie to the police to prevent going to the penitentiary? I answered no, so therefore he had no control "lie" question on me to judge my other answers on. I was nervous as heck but passed just fine. Weird experience though.

[Mattador]

I have been a lawyer for 17 years and I have never seen a polygraph actually admitted in court. Polygraphs generally do not satisfy the "scientific reliability" legal standard to be admissible. However, they are a great interrogation tool, and when I worked for the Army we got a lot of confessions out of people by telling them that they flunked, and were now in worse trouble. They are used by a number of government agencies.

Like most tests, it depends on the skill of the person administering the test. There are, by the way, some known ways to try and beat the poly. One old trick is to put a tack in your shoe, and press down on it when asking the truthful questions. It will create a higher baseline anxiety level, so if you are deceptive the spike does not look as high.

[MarkW]

i just had to take one a week or so ago for fish and wildlife as part of the hiring process.... the polygraph was possibly the most nerve racking thing i have ever done because of that unknown..... but looking back i have not a clue why i was nervous.... i knew i wasnt going to lie but still... even the polygraph examiner said not a single person that comes thru the door can say they arent nervous..... but a poly graph works off 4 things... u set on a pad for the pucker factor.. u have 2 things liuke heart monitors on your fingers but they are metal and they test your sweat because when u lie u secrete a small amount of sweat.....there will be a band or 2 around your chest to test for your breathing and heart rate and also there will be a blood presure monitor.....and u have to remain perfectly still for the whole thing to work and get an accurate reading..... the guy asked me standard questions like is the lights on in the room adn if my name is ryan then he asked the other questions.... and he also asked me a math problem like what it 8 minus 7 plus 2 equal....... but he asked the questions 3 different times in different order to get the correct reading..... u cant fail a lie detector if u tell the truth cause they ask questions to get a base line thru your anxiety.... and plus if u are taking one for fishing i am sure it wont be to awful bad...... I would say it woudl be just a few questions like did u catch these fish legal and stuff like that.... but thats my 2 cents i hope i didnt bore ya...... but the polygraph is like area 51 so many myths and rumors.... and all u have to do is tell the truth......

I did the same thing last week for a job in Louisville----it SUCKED!!!!! I totally agree with everything you just said. Where did you take yours--sounds very similiar to mine.

[ryan_ekubass]

I did the same thing last week for a job in Louisville----it SUCKED!!!!! I totally agree with everything you just said. Where did you take yours--sounds very similiar to mine.

i took mine thru the kentucky law enforcement council here in richmond at the department of criminal justice training complex.....