I've not had much good luck either, but, what i've read, and tried in the past, is go to the next change of structure. Example, if you were catching fish, in standing timber, in 10' - 12', find the next "drop", like from 14' to 20'. If they were off points, say in 15' of water, look for something to hold them in 20'. Like a drop off, stumps, or whatever. I think this is the time you really need good electronics, and know how to use them. Tr



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