Lake Waveland, Indiana

[topwater2007]

Went to Lake Waveland on Wednesday, and was told that the lake will be closed on November 4th for a shad kill operation from the IDNR known as a selective.

A selective is a chemical kill with roetone at a concentration level that will kill shad, and hopefully few other fish.

Waveland is a great lake with great bass, crappie, and catfish, so I hope they are successful in keeping the shad in check.

Hope to see a survey report next year, to see if Waveland can be maintained.

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[redearhoosier]

Unfortunately lots of the smaller lakes in Indiana seem to be getting populated by shad. Shad destroy a fishery, they compete for the same food as crappie, bluegill and redear. Their ability to reproduce and explode into huge numbers is what has ruined lots of smaller lakes.

Patoka Lake is an example of a larger lake that was ruined by the introduction of shad. Patoka was a prime panfish lake fifteen to twenty years ago and now the panfish are struggling. I know they're taking corrective action at Patoka though, stocking predator fish such as walleye, muskie and striper. The shad are a prime reason you catch one hundred dinky crappie and maybe eight good ones.

Shad introduction benefits bassfisherman and that's basically it according to a biologist I emailed. That's why many bassfisherman illegally stock shad into lakes...hoping to produce that state record largemouth.

[JustinM]

Here we go again...

[idbefishing]

like a broken record of some really crappy music.............

[avidbasser]

like a broken record of some really crappy music.............

And the band played on again...

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/ad.../band_geek.jpg

[raporter]

Asked Dan Carnahan(District biologist) a while back about the Musky rumor and he said it is just that. Sure would like to see them.

[topwater2007]

Asked Dan Carnahan(District biologist) a while back about the Musky rumor and he said it is just that. Sure would like to see them.

There are musky in Waveland. I caught one about 22 inches long, this was two years ago. They may not stock them anymore, but there are some in there.

You sure you got the right biologist for Waveland? I have talked to him before, his name is Rhett.

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[JustinM]

I think rap is talking about patoka.

[Moveon]

Dan stocked Musky in Bluegrass F&W pits. They are now being stocked in Bluegrass Pit, Loon Pit and since Otter Pit is connected to both Loon and Bluegrass it may contain some musky too. At times of flooding the Musky could reach the Ohio River someday. Any fish that swims in the Ohio River could potentially swim up Pigeon Creek and Bluegrass Creek into these pits when the Ohio River is well above flood stage.

Do you think that a Musky could live in our Ohio River in this area?

I saw one of the small Musky when they first started stocking Bluegrass Pit. It was only about 12" long. It was along the bank by the Concrete Launch ramp at Bluegrass's south parking lot.

Asked Dan Carnahan(District biologist) a while back about the Musky rumor and he said it is just that. Sure would like to see them.

[topwater2007]

Dan stocked Musky in Bluegrass F&W pits. They are now being stocked in Bluegrass Pit, Loon Pit and since Otter Pit is connected to both Loon and Bluegrass it may contain some musky too. At times of flooding the Musky could reach the Ohio River someday. Any fish that swims in the Ohio River could potentially swim up Pigeon Creek and Bluegrass Creek into these pits when the Ohio River is well above flood stage.

Do you think that a Musky could live in our Ohio River in this area?

I saw one of the small Musky when they first started stocking Bluegrass Pit. It was only about 12" long. It was along the bank by the Concrete Launch ramp at Bluegrass's south parking lot.

Musky are notorious for going over spillways. At Kincaid in Illinois, they put in a holding area under the dam to they could catch them and put them back. If there is any tributary with a spillway, Musky are going over the spillway, they love current and are fearless in their pursuits.

Fishing in rivers in Wisconsin for smallmouth, I have had the same Musky come up and look at me cast after cast, like it was a game. They don't appear to have fear of man at all, and many times hit right at the boat after following several casts. They are fearless or stupid, whatever you want to call it.

A great place to go Musky fishing coming up is in December at the Lake Shelbyville spillway. When the water is churning the musky come all the way up to the dam. I have a friend who bags a couple nice ones every year over there. He also fishes down at Dugger Unit of Green Sullivan, and I seen him catch 2 big ones in one day there.

I only catch the smaller ones for some reason, but did land a 42" musky this June up in the UP of Michigan border lakes with Wisconsin. My biggest freshwater fish ever.

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[raporter]

I think rap is talking about patoka.

Yes I was refering to Patoka as that was what Redearhoosier mentioned.
Dan is the biologist for Patoka.