Actually, that's not in the Bible

[RoadToad]

Very interesting article about frequent biblical misquotations. And the display of church signs on the right is worth clicking through.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/0...-in-the-bible/

[Tim_T]

I have actually heard some of these before.

[kygorski]

This only adds to my belief that the bible not be made part of public school ciriculum. My children attended a parochial school through grade 8 my first wife through grade 13. A lot of these "quotes" can be attributed to the protestant "work ethic" which used them to hold wages low, as the reward will be in heaven, blah blah blah.Also this hub bub about posting the 10 commandments,dont post them, teach them at home, and follow them always.

[FlyLie]

This only adds to my belief that the bible not be made part of public school ciriculum. My children attended a parochial school through grade 8 my first wife through grade 13. A lot of these "quotes" can be attributed to the protestant "work ethic" which used them to hold wages low, as the reward will be in heaven, blah blah blah.Also this hub bub about posting the 10 commandments,dont post them, teach them at home, and follow them always.

Somerset, ky (Pluskia (sp) County) are in the the hock to the turn of about $500,000 in legal bills as a result of their local government actions and (bible thumping fundamentalist) legal challenges to the placing the 10K on the court house property.

Keep it at home or be willing to place symbols of all the worlds religions on the court house square. Firm believer of separation of church and state. Not sure what I would have done, had I had the misfortune to have lived during the rain of the Church of England.....but thinking I might have killed a few elders or for sure would have been outcast!!!

[FlyLie]

I may have gotten off subject here, but the subject/conversation just hit a sensitive nerve. Let no man, government or other identify dictate how another man/woman is to live their life!! Enough said.

[HURRICANEBOB]

"Thou shalt go forth and prosper", then "thou shalt fill out a 1040 long form and give me 30% of it".

[Tom523]

Somerset, ky (Pluskia (sp) County) are in the the hock to the turn of about $500,000 in legal bills as a result of their local government actions and (bible thumping fundamentalist) legal challenges to the placing the 10K on the court house property.

Keep it at home or be willing to place symbols of all the worlds religions on the court house square. Firm believer of separation of church and state. Not sure what I would have done, had I had the misfortune to have lived during the rain of the Church of England.....but thinking I might have killed a few elders or for sure would have been outcast!!!

Actually separation of church and state is not in the constitution. It just states that the government will not sponsor a religion.

[walkeraviator]

Actually separation of church and state is not in the constitution. It just states that the government will not sponsor a religion.

Ding Ding Ding... we have a winner. The seperation of church and state isnt from the constitution any more than the articles quotes are from the bible.

[RoadToad]

Ding Ding Ding... we have a winner. The seperation of church and state isnt from the constitution any more than the articles quotes are from the bible.

People who want to see religion forced into government love to point out the fact that the words "separation of church and state" do not appear in the Constitution. Yes, that is true, the words are not there, but the concept is found throughout, most notably in the First Amendment. If you doubt that that's what the framers had in mind, then look to their private writings. We all know Thomas Jefferson was one of the main "authors" of our Constitution. He wrote the following in 1802, in a letter to the Danbury Baptists Association: "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." This was the origin of the phrase, which was later quoted by the Supreme Court, which was how it eventually found its way into common use. So, you can deny it all you want, but you cannot change the fact that "separation of church and state" is, and always has been, a governing principle of the United States of America.

[GeoFisher]

Toad, I agree with the premise of what you're saying, but the VERY METHOD that folks on the opposite side of the argument try to legislate their views over the majority make me sick.

If the majority of folks want something, SOCIAL NORMS should dictate that that is the way to go.

God is everywhere in our country. On our money, all over our patriotic songs, whatever, yet the very likes of the ACLU want to say it is ILLEGAL for that to exist, siting separation of church and state....

You cannot tell me that is really what the founders wanted. If that were the case, In God we TRUST simply wouldn't exist.

The REAL reason, and you're smart enough to know this......is the very fact that the founders didn't want a CHURCH of the United States, much like the Church of England. They didn't want God stricken from our lives, much to your disappointment.

Later,

Geo

[FlyLie]

People who want to see religion forced into government love to point out the fact that the words "separation of church and state" do not appear in the Constitution. Yes, that is true, the words are not there, but the concept is found throughout, most notably in the First Amendment. If you doubt that that's what the framers had in mind, then look to their private writings. We all know Thomas Jefferson was one of the main "authors" of our Constitution. He wrote the following in 1802, in a letter to the Danbury Baptists Association: "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." This was the origin of the phrase, which was later quoted by the Supreme Court, which was how it eventually found its way into common use. So, you can deny it all you want, but you cannot change the fact that "separation of church and state" is, and always has been, a governing principle of the United States of America.

Thanks Toad for the clarification. Well said. And to Geo. not sure where you are coming from, are you saying the government should be able to pass legislation which DICTATES my worship practices?????????? So, what if they put "in got we trust on the $$$$?", never did trust a banker anyway! Oh, and to hell with the "social norms" dictating public policy! My public practices are my individual choices and PRIVATE choices as long as I don't violate another man's/women's right and would like to think I can keep it that way. Don't think I need and a popular vote by the "norm" to infringe on that!

(PS, I do have guns....Hee...He) (now where in the Constitution was that?)

[FlyLie]

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