What's your take on this...GOP/Teaparty Disintegration!

[FlyLie]

So, whats your take on this? I tend to agree, the issues are spiting up the party along GOP/TEA fraction lines. This is certainly not a win win for the GOP!


WASHINGTON — Media reports are touting the Senate’s Gang of Six and its new budget outline. But the news that explains why the nation is caught in this debt-ceiling fiasco is the gang warfare inside the Republican Party. We are witnessing the disintegration of tea party Republicanism.

The tea party’s followers have endangered the nation’s credit rating and the GOP by pushing both House Speaker John Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantor away from their own best instincts.

Cantor worked amiably with the negotiating group organized by Vice President Joe Biden and won praise for his focus even from liberal staffers who have no use for his politics.

Yet when the Biden group seemed close to a deal, it was shot down by tea party’s champions. Boehner left Cantor exposed as the frontman in the Biden talks and did little to rescue him.

Then it was Boehner’s turn on the firing line. He came near a bigger budget deal with President Obama but the same right-wing rejectionists blew this up, too. Cantor evened the score by serving as a spokesman for Republicans opposed to any tax increase of any kind.

Think about the underlying dynamic here. The evidence suggests that both Boehner and Cantor understand the peril of the game their Republican colleagues are playing. They know we are closer than we think to having the credit rating of the United States downgraded. This may happen before Aug. 2, the date everyone is using as the deadline for action. We have less time than we think.

Unfortunately, neither of the two House leaders seems in a position to tell the obstreperous right that it is flatly and dangerously wrong when it claims that default is of little consequence. Rarely has a congressional leadership seemed so powerless.

Compare the impasse Boehner and Cantor are in with the aggressive maneuvering of Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell. He knows how damaging default would be and is working with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to concoct a way out.

McConnell can do this because he doesn’t confront the tea party problem that so bedevils Boehner and Cantor. Many of the tea party’s Senate candidates — Sharron Angle in Nevada, Christine O’Donnell in Delaware and Joe Miller in Alaska — lost in 2010. Boehner and Cantor, by contrast, owe their majority in part to tea party supporters.

McConnell has a certain freedom to govern that his House leadership colleagues do not.

And this is why Republicans are going to have to shake themselves loose from the tea party. Quite simply, the tea party’s legions are not interested in governing, at least as governing is normally understood in a democracy with separated powers. They believe that because the Republicans won one house of Congress in one election, they have a mandate to do whatever the right wing wants. A Democratic president and Senate are dismissed as irrelevant nuisances, although they were elected, too.

For the rest of the article: http://themoderatevoice.com/117078/b...-up-the-house/

[Tom523]

That article was was written by left wing radical E.J. Dionne Jr. . Consider the source. The tea party is stronger than ever and has gained respect from the GOP. There are some disagreements between the two, but they are being worked out. Remember there is the leftwing view, the right wing view, and then what is really happening.

[GeoFisher]

That article was was written by left wing radical E.J. Dionne Jr. . Consider the source. The tea party is stronger than ever and has gained respect from the GOP. There are some disagreements between the two, but they are being worked out. Remember there is the leftwing view, the right wing view, and then what is really happening.

I agree Tom........The teaparty is WHAT the republican party used to be......the current crop of democrats......I MEAN republicans are a bunch of chicken **** wanna be republicans.

Throw them all out of office........put some ultra right wingers in their place. CUT entitlements, CUT welfare, CUT medicare part B, CUT TAXES.......shut down 1/3 of all government buildings tomorrow.......

AND get **** working again.

[Tom523]

The size of government needs to be cut. Over the years it has grown to meet the need to be more intrusive in our lives. We the people have let this happen by letting government into our bedrooms, hospital rooms, and churches by passing more laws that make the citizen more dependent on government.But right now 49% of the people in this country don't pay taxes and many are receiving entitlements from the government. What's gonna happen to this country when that number reaches 51%. These people will vote for the candidate that offers the most freebees. Then 49% of the working people will be paying higher taxes to pay for these increased entitlements. Then it will snowball because the working people will think "Why should I work when I can get things for Free!"So they quit work and collect entitlements. Then the percentage of people depending on the government will increase until the whole country is socialist. Entitlements need to be cut. I can't figure out why Jimmy Carter allowed immigrants that didn't pay into social security to collect benefits from it. They can start cutting social security right there.

[DJD]

49% don't pay taxes? Where did that come from? I would like to read about that because I had no idea....

[Tim_T]

49% don't pay taxes? Where did that come from? I would like to read about that because I had no idea....

I am with Don, I would like to know more. That is a number I haven't heard before.

[RoadToad]

And it's a proven fact that 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

[Tom523]

And it's a proven fact that 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

I stand corected. 47 % http://blogs.marketwatch.com/fundmas...-income-taxes/

[DJD]

I stand corected. 47 % http://blogs.marketwatch.com/fundmas...-income-taxes/

Interesting. Thanks man.

[kygorski]

Lets make this simple. If mcbrain had won the election, there3 would be no Tparty. On Nov. 10th a few folks picked up the paper and saw what happened. Their response was. OH MY GAWD, LUL WAT DEM FOOL DIMACRATS DUN. THEY ELECTED ONE OF THEM, TO BE PRESIDENT.[ Sorry about the typos, but the truth is the truth.]So it seems that those who didn't want morons to be nominated cuz they weren't christians, nominated a moron to run, and he lost to another moron.We have met the enemy, its us.

[kygorski]

Interesting. Thanks man.

Figures dont lie, but liars figure.

[mhall]

Figures dont lie, but liars figure.

Hmmm, don't know if I would like this if it was pointed at me???

That article is complete CRAP.