For all you Military types,

[Grumpy]

I was in an establishment this morning that has absolutely nothing to do with the Military. While there I heard one of the people tell her Boss that everything was locked and loaded and he could start XXXXX anytime.

Just wondering if anyone knows the origian of the term "Lock and Load"? I would like to hear your explanation(s) but no fair checking Goodle.

Grumpy

[MrSplitshot]

I always thought that "Lock and Load" meant to prepare your weapon. That would mean locking the bolt back, inserting mag, and loading the round into the chamber by cycling it forward...thus being locked and loaded, ready to fire.

[Grumpy]

Yes, I am sure that is the general MEANING, what I asked is, do you know what the ORIGIN is?

Grumpy

[kygorski]

First time I heard that term, was at the rifle range in basic training. That was the first time we were handed live ammo.The goodole 30/06 M-1 Rifle.That was about july 1956. We needed to fire almost every combat infantry weapon.

[HURRICANEBOB]

I think it comes from the actions needed to prepare a flint lock rifle for firing. In order to safely load a rifle of this type it was necessary to position the firing mechanism in a locked position, after which the gun powder and ball could be safely loaded into the rifle barrel without any chance of the rifle misfiring.

[HURRICANEBOB]

It's also what the wife does to her bedroom door when I hit the bottom of the Cuervo or Maker's bottle.

[GeoFisher]

I was in an establishment this morning that has absolutely nothing to do with the Military. While there I heard one of the people tell her Boss that everything was locked and loaded and he could start XXXXX anytime.

Just wondering if anyone knows the origian of the term "Lock and Load"? I would like to hear your explanation(s) but no fair checking Goodle.

Grumpy

Does it have something to do with a flintlock lock and loaded..........maybe from very old military weapons??

Just a guess.

Later,

Geo

[Grumpy]

According to MSG (E-7) Tellier, Fort Lewis Range Safety NCOIC, while conducting Basic Training with the 2nd Infantry Div. in July 1956, the term does in fact go back to the Flintlocks used during the Revolutionary War. We were training with the M-1 Garand Rifle for which the term "Lock and Load" aptly applies.


Congratulations Bob and Geo,

Grumpy

[kygorski]

Another term which applied to many was OUCH[followed by some unprintable terms}, my thumb.I used to be an avid water fowl and bird hunter before I went into the army, took me a few years to get my tracking eye back.

[GeoFisher]

According to MSG (E-7) Tellier, Fort Lewis Range Safety NCOIC, while conducting Basic Training with the 2nd Infantry Div. in July 1956, the term does in fact go back to the Flintlocks used during the Revolutionary War. We were training with the M-1 Garand Rifle for which the term "Lock and Load" aptly applies.


Congratulations Bob and Geo,

Grumpy

I have a buddy that is into 18th century reenactments......I attended an event with him a few years ago where one of the guys was currently special forces in bragg......not sure what, but he definitely seemed like a badass and knew his stuff.

At any rate, he played an 18th century scout, and was sharing the story of lock and loaded.

Kind of neat.

Later,

Geo

[HURRICANEBOB]

According to MSG (E-7) Tellier, Fort Lewis Range Safety NCOIC, while conducting Basic Training with the 2nd Infantry Div. in July 1956, the term does in fact go back to the Flintlocks used during the Revolutionary War. We were training with the M-1 Garand Rifle for which the term "Lock and Load" aptly applies.


Congratulations Bob and Geo,

Grumpy

I had an unfair experience advantage. I was in 2nd ID Korea during the lean budget years and we were equipped with flintlocks. Yes we had M60 tanks, but due to budget constraints they were more like "stationary artillery equipped gun emplacements". While they had us wear tankers berets, we had to fold them so they had 3 corners for historical purposes. :-0