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I really want to know what the Lefties on this site think about the border issues.
Is this what you want?
Is this Obama's Fault?
Is this a direct correlation to Obama's Executive Orders with regards to the DREAM ACT?
When will we start seeing issued with ISIS coming across our border and KILLING Americans?
How about it?
Later,
Geo
[QUOTE=GeoFisher;535374]I really want to know what the Lefties on this site think about the border issues.
Is this what you want?
Is this Obama's Fault?
Is this a direct correlation to Obama's Executive Orders with regards to the DREAM ACT?
When will we start seeing issued with ISIS coming across our border and KILLING Americans?
How about it?
Later,
Geo[/QUOTE]
Since I asked the questions....I will answer.
Is this what you want: Hell NO. I want secure borders with LEGAL immigration. The stuff happening on our southern border is not legal or secure. I personally think Obama is DIRECTLY responsible for it.
Fault: It is Bush and Obama's fault. Bush had an opportunity to resolve some of this. BUT, fighting Fascist Terrorism versus border issues......I give him a buy. Obama on the other hand........Even if Obama cared, which he does not. He has done nothing to mitigate the issues, and if you ask me, actually is causing quite a bit of the issues down there.
Dream Act: Yea, by Obama pushing executive orders related to the Dream Act, I feel he gave the impression that once you get here, you can stay. Hell his minions in the White house are probably making cold calls to ILLEGALS and telling them........We will BUILD it.........if you come.
ISIS Terrorists: Yea, Terrorists will and are obviously using this situation to infiltrate this country. If you don't think so, you're a MORON.
[B][I]* Dig a moat the length of the Mexican border.[/I][/B]
[B][I]* Send the dirt to New Orleans to raise the level of the levees. [/I][/B]
[B][I]* Put the Florida alligators in the moat along the Mexican border.
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I realize what I just posted is an old joke, but sometimes I think it might be the answer!:o
Perfect Tyme
[QUOTE=GeoFisher;535375]Since I asked the questions....I will answer.
Is this what you want: Hell NO. I want secure borders with LEGAL immigration. The stuff happening on our southern border is not legal or secure. I personally think Obama is DIRECTLY responsible for it.
Fault: It is Bush and Obama's fault. Bush had an opportunity to resolve some of this. BUT, fighting Fascist Terrorism versus border issues......I give him a buy. Obama on the other hand........Even if Obama cared, which he does not. He has done nothing to mitigate the issues, and if you ask me, actually is causing quite a bit of the issues down there.
Dream Act: Yea, by Obama pushing executive orders related to the Dream Act, I feel he gave the impression that once you get here, you can stay. Hell his minions in the White house are probably making cold calls to ILLEGALS and telling them........We will BUILD it.........if you come.
ISIS Terrorists: Yea, Terrorists will and are obviously using this situation to infiltrate this country. If you don't think so, you're a MORON.[/QUOTE]Geo I think you are wrong I heard Jay Carney Obama press secretary in about April say the border is as secure as it has ever been and because it is so secure that illegal crossings are way down and security is no longer an issue. Are you sure these kids are getting through this secure border---- It is on fox so it is probably a lie and they probably don't have tuberculosis lice or any other comunicable disease. I'm sure they didn't threaten any of the Government workers they would be fired if they spoke out about anything because this is the most transparent administration ever. Also you can tell there is no problem at the border because our president flew to Texas on our dime and attended a fund raiser and did not go down to the border and we know if there were problems there he would cancel the fund raiser like he did when we had an ambassador killed.
I read a lot on the dream act and what keeps popping into my mind is how in the world are we going to implement this? Our elected goons have dropped the ball on illegal immigration from the borders down south but now they have this fool proof plan with all these restrictions for kids who basically had no choice in coming here. Hmmmm seems like they are basically saying uhhhh we can't secure our borders and we have let millions of illegals into this country for years so what can we do??? I know the Whitehouse is saying this isn't a form of Amnesty but I believe that's exactly what it is because they are giving some merit to letting these folks have a means to being a citizen even though they arrived illegally of may have been born to illegal parents. Once you have a vehicle for "amnesty" that is the beginning to the end. All it takes is a piece of legislation to grab hold and before you know it they will say uhhhh look folks we goofed up and are spending millions to process these people and we can't seem to get it right so the hell with it everyone gets amnesty so we can start over because it's good for our economy, security and nation.
Yeah the Whitehouse has all the fancy stats and pretty words but they don't face the truth of what is going on. Our educational system and business' are burdened with non English speaking kids and this just drags the system down. Many of our trades and business' are hiring illegal who operate under the radar and I don't think the Whithouse has a firm understanding of how many illegals we have here. The dream act is good for our economy, security and our nation....the phrase is repeated several times on the Whitehouse page describing this act. I believe they want us to believe it but don't read to much into it...just remember it's good for our economy, security and nation.
Yeah ok, we will have more documented illegals and they will be paying taxes at some point if they meet the criteria of the dream act, sounds like a good selling point to skeptics like me but still sounds like Bulldroppings. Security is improved by this Dream Act? How so? We are not going to secure the borders, we are giving merit to specific illegals so how are we more secure? How about secure the borders to be more secure as a starting point then we deal with this other crap or at least do both at the same time. Good for the nation huh? Again our nation needs secure borders and then this kind of stuff but if you watch or read the news our politicians are already screwing the pooch on this massive influx of kids. So now as a loving nation of immigrants we must do something!!!! It ain't cheap and our politicians caused this mess but no worries they will fix it....we just have to trust them....again!!
Personally I think a nation wide amnesty plan is coming and the democrats are going to use that as a talking point for the upcoming potus election. They will say the evil republicans want to starve these kids and split families and push these kids and toddlers to human traffickers where they will be abused and left for dead. The country cannot win this battle because we have ZERO leadership in Washington.
Heck maybe we should just annex Mexico and implement the American way down there. Overthrow their gubment and declare it the 51st state. Use their drug lords as politicians and make pot legal everywhere and tax the snot out of it to fund the rebuilding of Mexico. We won't beat them may as well take what we can and extend our southern border waaaaay down south. :p
[QUOTE=DJD;535392]Heck maybe we should just annex Mexico and implement the American way down there. Overthrow their gubment and declare it the 51st state. Use their drug lords as politicians and make pot legal everywhere and tax the snot out of it to fund the rebuilding of Mexico. We won't beat them may as well take what we can and extend our southern border waaaaay down south. :p[/QUOTE]
This may take care of itself with two more years of Obama everyone may be fleeing into Mexico; however they probably handle illegal aliens differently than we do.
Mine the border!!!! Leave the corpses.
To begin with a lot of these children are guided to cross illegaly. That's a crime. Secondly, the prior illegals are working as undocumented workers, another crime. We have valid legal crossing points, so if they are not being used, why not just make it harder to cross.Dont bring up freedom of movement, ever see how many NO TRESSPASSING signs there are in America? Anti personal mines are a great deterent, have any of you guys seen high voltage electric fences? they are marked and legal. There is no humane problem, put up signs, and let the folks know they are in peril, if they ignore that, WHO NEEDS EM?. I'm not against legal immigrants, my grand parents came through Ellis ISLAND, as did many before them. They followed the law, went through the depression with minimum aide, paid taxes, had sons who served in the armed forces. I consider myself a liberal, and NOT all of us bleeding heart "lefties" and we didn't cause this mess. I HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING FOR YEARS ABOUT LAX IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
complaining and still voting democrat?....smart.
My candidates are supposed to do my bidding[ it could happen maybe]. But the big money donaters who buy elections for special causes, run candidates who are only beholding to their masters. My candidates don't need to sign a pledge to a third party to be on a ballot. At least my guy is looking out for himself first, the party second, and sometimes [not often] me.