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WOW.......and yea, the liberals here say this guy is just baiting, but you know what..........the FOOLS he's interviewing do actually vote.
It is scary how patently IGNORANT some folks are. I seriously think there should be some parameters that are utilized to determine if a person can vote.
[video=youtube;eiZFXkmofgI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiZFXkmofgI&feature=youtu.be[/video]
If you are referring to me, and I assume you are since I pointed out who this guy is on the other thread, I am as far from a liberal as you will find. That doesn't mean however that I will support a conspiracy theorist such as Mark Dice and his ilk trying to profiteer off of people.
Yes there are dumb ignorant people out there who will answer yes to something they don't even understand, is this really shocking? And I would bet most of the people he gets on tape likely don't bother to vote. So few actually do these days, less than 60% during presidential election years, 40% off years. These are exactly the type of uninvolved ignorant people who are clueless and don't vote. And believe me you can find ignorant uninformed people from either side of politics.
George I like you, but where we differ is I reserve my outrage towards actual real issues or policies that do/can harm us. There are plenty of them to truly get concerned over so why get worked up over made up nonsense from some guy who's obvious motivation is to make money off gullible people. Why even promote or support a 9-11 conspiracist like that?
IMO these types of videos from a guy like this doesn't help at all in hurting Hillary's chances and if anything it helps it because when there is real legitimate criticisms they gets lost or not taken seriously because of people too often having to sift through this type of garbage. This is not intellectual debate, this is trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator and has zero chance of actually changing anyone's mind that truly may be on the fence and about which way to vote. It may get some people who already hate Hillary to feel justified in their feelings but this isn't reaching or changing many swing votes, and is more likely to swing someone undecided the other way out of disgust or concluding that all the other side has is just made up accusations. This plays right into the lefts strategy of painting honest genuine criticism as far right conspiracy and yes some people do believe that as well. IMO all criticism should be honest and direct, and defendable and then it becomes much more affective. I am not pointing out the problems with this guy and his videos because I am liberal but instead because of the exact opposite and because I am conservative.
Again I like you and this is nothing personal towards you at all; I do hope you understand that. We want the same thing but just have different views about what is productive or the type of people we should support. This guy is a charlatan trying to profit off of people's fears and simply because he is attacking Hillary is not reason enough for me to support him or his methods.
[QUOTE=SLP;548835]If you are referring to me, and I assume you are since I pointed out who this guy is on the other thread, I am as far from a liberal as you will find. That doesn't mean however that I will support a conspiracy theorist such as Mark Dice and his ilk trying to profiteer off of people.
Yes there are dumb ignorant people out there who will answer yes to something they don't even understand, is this really shocking? And I would bet most of the people he gets on tape likely don't bother to vote. So few actually do these days, less than 60% during presidential election years, 40% off years. These are exactly the type of uninvolved ignorant people who are clueless and don't vote. And believe me you can find ignorant uninformed people from either side of politics.
George I like you, but where we differ is I reserve my outrage towards actual real issues or policies that do/can harm us. There are plenty of them to truly get concerned over so why get worked up over made up nonsense from some guy who's obvious motivation is to make money off gullible people. Why even promote or support a 9-11 conspiracist like that?
IMO these types of videos from a guy like this doesn't help at all in hurting Hillary's chances and if anything it helps it because when there is real legitimate criticisms they gets lost or not taken seriously because of people too often having to sift through this type of garbage. This is not intellectual debate, this is trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator and has zero chance of actually changing anyone's mind that truly may be on the fence and about which way to vote. It may get some people who already hate Hillary to feel justified in their feelings but this isn't reaching or changing many swing votes, and is more likely to swing someone undecided the other way out of disgust or concluding that all the other side has is just made up accusations. This plays right into the lefts strategy of painting honest genuine criticism as far right conspiracy and yes some people do believe that as well. IMO all criticism should be honest and direct, and defendable and then it becomes much more affective. I am not pointing out the problems with this guy and his videos because I am liberal but instead because of the exact opposite and because I am conservative.
Again I like you and this is nothing personal towards you at all; I do hope you understand that. We want the same thing but just have different views about what is productive or the type of people we should support. This guy is a charlatan trying to profit off of people's fears and simply because he is attacking Hillary is not reason enough for me to support him or his methods.[/QUOTE]
Not referring to you. He's discounted on a few sites, because of his tactics. The problem is that people are IGNORANT. The exist on both sides, but they seem to be much worse on the left....
And I don't discount what you're saying....this guy IS an extremist on the right, and says some really whacked out things.
That doesn't change the fact that the people he interviews are SCARY..........
Its easy to find people this ignorant and worse who do vote and who believe anything if they hear it repeated enough.....need I remind anyone that Obama was elected twice?!?!?!?!
[QUOTE=DJD;548839]Its easy to find people this ignorant and worse who do vote and who believe anything if they hear it repeated enough..![/QUOTE] ha ha I agree and don't forget those that don't have to hear anything, they just assume something and believe it to be true, and these folks vote as well.
I remember a fellow who said that energy cost would necessarily skyrocket under his administration, and the people cheered. He also said something to the effect that he didn't like a Bill Of Rights that protect the citizens from the Government, but was for the government doing more for the people. And the people cheered. I remember a fellow saying he would cause the oceans to recede, and the people cheered. I remember a fellow who claims to be a constitutional professor say that he couldn't just go over the heads of congress because the constitution wouldn't allow it, but then changed his mind and got out his pen and listened to his phone. And the people cheered, for both sides of his argument. I remember a fellow say that BO care was not a tax until he argued that it was a tax. And the people cheered again for both sides of his argument. This same fellow said you could keep your doctor and your plan if you like it. Said we would save 2500 on average. And the people cheered. Yes the people are very smart. I could go on and on and on. The constitution and the Bill Of Rights don't really matter that much anymore. The guys that wrote those documents were white men, owned slaves, and believed in the Bible. Can't believe a word they wrote.
I voted for BO twice! While he hasn't changed the world for the better, I don't think he made it any worse. He hasn't ended the wars he didn't start. and while I always paid for part f my health care, now more folks has some minimal coverage, that never existed before.And yes, he hasn't done much, BUT he's concerned to some extant in the future of this country. All you repubs want is to go back to the "ronnie" years. I WAS THERE, AND IT WAS NOT UTOPIA. When will you folks learn you can't go in time, with the current goodies we take for granted.We isolated Cuba for almost 50years, and it didn't go away. A long time ago. Iran electeda president, the iranians did that. We orchestrated a coup, and over threw him. And THEY can't be trusted? Yesterday is history, tommorow is a mystery.
The only "goodies" I want from the government are what the constitution and the bill of rights call for. It seems we can't even do that. My dad was in the Navy during WWII. The Navy is now below the number of ships it had back then. No worries, we have a good deal with Iran(BO said they were a "tiny" country), a red line in Syria, reset with Russia, and China is our friend. China is building the biggest Navy in the world and already has the largest army in the world. You would think with 18 trillion dollars in debt we would be the most powerful country in the world. But food stamps have increased, and poverty has increased and our military has decreased. Now we have not just a big top heavy government, but we have a huge government. That was never intended by our founders. I don't want to empower my government to force my neighbor to do anything for me. I don't see the word goodies anywhere in the constitution. Yes I was alive during the "Ronnie" days. Dems fought him tooth and nail, but he was able to get us out of the malaise of the Carter years. If huge debt, high poverty and a small military sounds good, Sanders should be your guy. I'll take a constitutionalist, which there seems to be only one running. Looks like I wont be voting next election. I know that I can't change any minds. They are set. But no one can tell me that we are "progressing" toward utopia. We were given a blue print for "utopia" but have decided it wasn't for us. Cuba looks great from what I hear. Plenty of goodies.