dragmerc

You keep bringing up history,why do great countries go into declineI can only comment on western civilization, I know little about eastern culture [neither does the u.s. government i think]. All of them expanded their power, by conquest.they spent large amounts of their resources on miltary ambitions. the resource they couldn't afford to lose, was the best of their men being used for the military. You don't send the dregs of society into battle for your cause.Ben Franklin said the cost of war comes back to haunt you later.How many greeks were sacrificed to beat persia. The romans needed to tax themselves and everyone the conquered to pay for an army, and they couldn't afford it, and lost. Britian ruled the world at one time, what happened there? France almost conquered europe, where are they now? Russia lost a war with japan, and in afganistan, and now they can barely afford to keep up the cost of a modern army.And if you think about it, we have troops in over 20 countries. But human nature is that we must fight someone for some obscure cause. " the shores of tripoli, and the halls of montezuma. Yes the pirates needed to be stopped, an we did it, and pulled out when it over. then began american expansion, and it continues even today.We use our best in the military,and the cost is yet to be paid. and what did we gain?

i'm opposed to most war too. iraq was our biggest mistake, or second biggest after vietnam. W operated more like a democrat. he's the reason we have a muslim in the white house now. john mccain gets his under table money from the military contractors. he should have been gone long ago. W was probably worst president in my life time right after the absolute worst we have right now. and lucifer's witch will be the crookedest of all time. we've been on a down hill drag for 20 years. we're in sad shape. now quit always bad mouthing my side and comment on some of your wackos...pelosi, shumer, etc.

Pelosi,never in your wildest dreams can you ever imagine me thinking she nothing but a california fruit cake. I have no opinion on schumer, he's a liberal, and a lot of liberals have wacky ideas, but so do some right wingers. But we will never solve this problem untill we set term limits, and rule out out of state money in local elections. Put congress on social security, and quit paying for their insurance benefits, after all they did run for office as a "public servant" not a demigod. It seems we have a breeding ground for wacko politicans, its texas and california.

[QUOTE=kygorski;556904]You keep bringing up history,why do great countries go into declineI can only comment on western civilization, I know little about eastern culture [neither does the u.s. government i think]. All of them expanded their power, by conquest.they spent large amounts of their resources on miltary ambitions. the resource they couldn't afford to lose, was the best of their men being used for the military. You don't send the dregs of society into battle for your cause.Ben Franklin said the cost of war comes back to haunt you later.How many greeks were sacrificed to beat persia. The romans needed to tax themselves and everyone the conquered to pay for an army, and they couldn't afford it, and lost. Britian ruled the world at one time, what happened there? France almost conquered europe, where are they now? Russia lost a war with japan, and in afganistan, and now they can barely afford to keep up the cost of a modern army.And if you think about it, we have troops in over 20 countries. But human nature is that we must fight someone for some obscure cause. " the shores of tripoli, and the halls of montezuma. Yes the pirates needed to be stopped, an we did it, and pulled out when it over. then began american expansion, and it continues even today.We use our best in the military,and the cost is yet to be paid. and what did we gain?[/QUOTE]

Greed and corruption are the reasons those governments failed. Our government is headed the same way with their million dollar junkets and 18 dollar cupcakes. It's easy to spend taxpayer money.

[QUOTE=dragmerc;556906]i'm opposed to most war too. iraq was our biggest mistake, or second biggest after vietnam. W operated more like a democrat. he's the reason we have a muslim in the white house now. john mccain gets his under table money from the military contractors. he should have been gone long ago. W was probably worst president in my life time right after the absolute worst we have right now. and lucifer's witch will be the crookedest of all time. we've been on a down hill drag for 20 years. we're in sad shape. now quit always bad mouthing my side and comment on some of your wackos...pelosi, shumer, etc.[/QUOTE]


dragmerc you lost all credibility when you said that there was a Muslim in the white house. We all know your referring to the Black Man in the White House President Barrack Obama. Your statement tells me and everyone else that you are not a sane man. You listen to the Fox News paid mouths who spew false information on a daily basis and you eat that up.

I was actually reading what you said about the War in Iraq and Vietnam and thought you had a valid point. That is one thing that I agree with you on.

But when you start the BS that Barrack Obama is a Muslin they you are just dead wrong. I don't care what Donald Trump or anyone else says Barrack is no more a Muslim that YOU are. He maybe go to Church more often than most of you all who call him a Muslin. He's a Christian and he was born in Hawaii. The fact that I still have to correct you on your insane accusations show just how far into the abyss you live.

Now you may be right about Senator John McCain. He was near the bottom of his class at West Point and he's been living off the Government ever since he graduated from that facility. He lost a lot of expensive Air Force Aircraft and then spent time in a Prison. He needs help getting his life back together but his mind has been negatively impacted by the torture he underwent in the Hanoi Hilton. I'm not sure that damage has been fixed. His choice of running mate in 2008 showed that his judgment was suspect at best.

If tush says there are muslims in the white house, there must be.I noticed some photos of the first family, No burkas, a women who speaks out,and daughters who smile.So maybe tushie is having an oxycodone vision. Or he sees another white house.