This could make EV vehicles actually a viability for ME

[url]https://news.umich.edu/1000-cycle-lithium-sulfur-battery-could-quintuple-electric-vehicle-ranges/[/url]

Basically, the article is about making batteries and EV vehicles, actually useful :)

Later,


Geo

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;582620][url]https://news.umich.edu/1000-cycle-lithium-sulfur-battery-could-quintuple-electric-vehicle-ranges/[/url]

Basically, the article is about making batteries and EV vehicles, actually useful :)

Later,


Geo[/QUOTE]

Every major auto mfg has a line of EV's, we'll see how viable they are. It's a matter of time before it'll be a social faux pas to drive a non EV, and eventually Californication will outlaw gas/diesel vehicles. Will take a while, but rest assured...it will happen.

[QUOTE=Devils Horse;582638]Every major auto mfg has a line of EV's, we'll see how viable they are. It's a matter of time before it'll be a social faux pas to drive a non EV, and eventually Californication will outlaw gas/diesel vehicles. Will take a while, but rest assured...it will happen.[/QUOTE]

By 2030 I suspect we will have 30% or so EV's. The infrastructure and battery mess is the biggest issue.....Oh and the cost.......

And I guarantee you, most EV's will not last the 15 years my F150 has. I know folks who have 10 year PRIUS's and spent over 6k to put a battery in the to just keep driving them.

Scary.

Later,

Geo

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;582640]By 2030 I suspect we will have 30% or so EV's. The infrastructure and battery mess is the biggest issue.....Oh and the cost.......

And I guarantee you, most EV's will not last the 15 years my F150 has. I know folks who have 10 year PRIUS's and spent over 6k to put a battery in the to just keep driving them.

Scary.

Later,

Geo[/QUOTE]

So that 6k a battery was 4-5 years ago..........Checking today, It looks like even the oldest vehicle is under 4k.

Here is what I found:

Here is a list of all MSRP battery cost details for the various Toyota Priuses offered since 2001:



2001 – 2003 Toyota Prius (first generation) – $3,649
2004 – 2009 Toyota Prius (second generation) – $3,939
2010 – 2011 Toyota Prius (third generation) – $40,80
2012 – 2015 Toyota Prius Liftback – $3,939
2012 – 2016 Toyota Prius V – $3,939
2012 – 2016 Toyota Prius C – $3,807


Each of the aforementioned prices will be reduced by a $1,350 core credit for the old battery pack that is being replaced, which the dealer will then recycle through the long-established Toyota program.



That is a HUGE improvement.

We shall see.

later,

Geo

I consider myself pretty green, but the best thing about hybrids is sneaking up behind people in the parking lot

[QUOTE=jcb;582643]I consider myself pretty green, but the best thing about hybrids is sneaking up behind people in the parking lot[/QUOTE]

that is actually a HUGE issue . People getting ran over by quiet vehicles.

[QUOTE=jcb;582643]I consider myself pretty green, but the best thing about hybrids is sneaking up behind people in the parking lot[/QUOTE]

My F150 is a hybrid. 1/2 it moves around on gas, 1/2 time it moves on a tow truck 😂😂

We got a CMax too. 2015 that has had zero repairs to date.

I’ve tried sneaking up on people in parking lots, and it always fails because the wife yells at me too loud😂

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;582646]that is actually a HUGE issue . People getting ran over by quiet vehicles.[/QUOTE]

That surprises me, I had not heard that. I guess I need new batteries in my hearing aids.

If an EV runs over a pedestrian, does the hospital use a respirator.... or a battery charger?

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;582641]So that 6k a battery was 4-5 years ago..........Checking today, It looks like even the oldest vehicle is under 4k.

Here is what I found:

Here is a list of all MSRP battery cost details for the various Toyota Priuses offered since 2001:



2001 – 2003 Toyota Prius (first generation) – $3,649
2004 – 2009 Toyota Prius (second generation) – $3,939
2010 – 2011 Toyota Prius (third generation) – $40,80
2012 – 2015 Toyota Prius Liftback – $3,939
2012 – 2016 Toyota Prius V – $3,939
2012 – 2016 Toyota Prius C – $3,807


Each of the aforementioned prices will be reduced by a $1,350 core credit for the old battery pack that is being replaced, which the dealer will then recycle through the long-established Toyota program.



That is a HUGE improvement.

We shall see.

later,

Geo[/QUOTE]

BLM: Battery Lives Matter! 🤙

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;582646]that is actually a HUGE issue . People getting ran over by quiet vehicles.[/QUOTE]

that allegation was never proven

[QUOTE=jcb;582651]that allegation was never proven[/QUOTE]

1. I've personally experienced it..........I didn't get ran over, but they are quiet.
2. EV manufacturers are actually studying it.
3. Your all mighty god.......the gubment :) issued a safety standard for it.

Here is an interesting article.

[url]https://www.wired.com/2017/04/evs-dangerously-quiet-heres-sound-like/[/url]

And another:

[url]https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/documents/quietcar_finalrule_11142016.pdf[/url]

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;582652]1. I've personally experienced it..........I didn't get ran over, but they are quiet.
2. EV manufacturers are actually studying it.
3. Your all mighty god.......the gubment :) issued a safety standard for it.

Here is an interesting article.

[url]https://www.wired.com/2017/04/evs-dangerously-quiet-heres-sound-like/[/url]

And another:

[url]https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/documents/quietcar_finalrule_11142016.pdf[/url][/QUOTE]

1. That was a joke meaning the allegation against me :D
2. I have a healthy govt. suspicion/skepticism pretty much always. But also try to see when they don't deserve it.