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It's true. OK has a higher crime rate 9 per 100,000 people that New York City. And there are 8 other RED states that have higher crime Rates than all the other blue states.
So think about that. States with lower populations have higher murder rates that states with higher population. The number of murders per 100,000 people is higher in GOP controlled States. Imagine that.
[QUOTE=Moveon;584806][URL]https://fb.watch/gANN9F4W9c/[/URL]
It's true. OK has a higher crime rate 9 per 100,000 people that New York City. And there are 8 other RED states that have higher crime Rates than all the other blue states.
So think about that. States with lower populations have higher murder rates that states with higher population. The number of murders per 100,000 people is higher in GOP controlled States. Imagine that.[/QUOTE]
I know how to fix this. Tell criminals they will get a lesser sentence if they commit crime out of state.
[QUOTE=Moveon;584806][url]https://fb.watch/gANN9F4W9c/[/url]
It's true. OK has a higher crime rate 9 per 100,000 people that New York City. And there are 8 other RED states that have higher crime Rates than all the other blue states.
So think about that. States with lower populations have higher murder rates that states with higher population. The number of murders per 100,000 people is higher in GOP controlled States. Imagine that.[/QUOTE]
Interesting video....I watched it all.
I'm quite surprised how he rolled it all into RACISM.
And do you wonder why LEFTIES always do that? You should ask yourself.
I will also say a lot of his metrics are from 2020....Do not include 2021 and 2022 crime statistics. You can find those if you want to look.
I doubt you will.
Parse the data how ever frick you want. VALIDATE the data yourself, and then ask yourself is crime better or worse.
I don't watch most news stations any longer.
Here's an interesting link about overall crime, and according it it, crime is up everywhere. Probably due to the bullshittery around defund the police.
[url]https://www.safehome.org/resources/crime-statistics-by-state/[/url]
[QUOTE=GeoFisher;584813]Interesting video....I watched it all.
I'm quite surprised how he rolled it all into RACISM.
And do you wonder why LEFTIES always do that? You should ask yourself.
I will also say a lot of his metrics are from 2020....Do not include 2021 and 2022 crime statistics. You can find those if you want to look.
I doubt you will.
Parse the data how ever frick you want. VALIDATE the data yourself, and then ask yourself is crime better or worse.
I don't watch most news stations any longer.
Here's an interesting link about overall crime, and according it it, crime is up everywhere. Probably due to the bullshittery around defund the police.
[url]https://www.safehome.org/resources/crime-statistics-by-state/[/url][/QUOTE]
You missed the entire point you stupid goof. It's RATES. Think now. RATES vs total crime. Duh. You really are dumb.
And don't give me that total bs about defunding the police. It's the GOP calling for getting rid of the IRS police and the FBI police. You repugnuts talk out of both sides of your mouth and it's disgusting.
[QUOTE=Moveon;584829]You missed the entire point you stupid goof. It's RATES. Think now. RATES vs total crime. Duh. You really are dumb.
And don't give me that total bs about defunding the police. It's the GOP calling for getting rid of the IRS police and the FBI police. You repugnuts talk out of both sides of your mouth and it's disgusting.[/QUOTE]
Got'em
[QUOTE=Buzzy;584832]Got'em[/QUOTE]
He need to duck or it will hit him in the head one day. Fore ha ha.
I'll say it again GEO. It's the Rate. Let me explain it. States with huge populations do have a lot of crime. That is expected if you know anything about human development and population density causing more trouble between neighbors.
State with low population don't have close neighbors as states with high population. Are you getting it yet?
If your neighbor is a mile away, you may not see them as a problem like a neighbor who lives within 10 ft of your house in the inner city.
And as far as Race. We all know that Blacks have been deprived since before the Civil War. Ever hear of Slavery? Anyway, most of the inner city where it's crowded has a predominately black population these days. And you know the rest of the story how their voting rights are being restricted in many ways. Either it's having a driver's license for voting ID or changing voting districts, eliminating early voting, or eliminating voting boxes or slowing the mail down by putting an idiot in charge of the US Postage Service (Yes TRUMP DID that) and it takes time and effort to replace the board who can replace him). I could go on more, but we all get the picture.
[QUOTE=Moveon;584833]He need to duck or it will hit him in the head one day. Fore ha ha.
I'll say it again GEO. It's the Rate. Let me explain it. States with huge populations do have a lot of crime. That is expected if you know anything about human development and population density causing more trouble between neighbors.
State with low population don't have close neighbors as states with high population. Are you getting it yet?
If your neighbor is a mile away, you may not see them as a problem like a neighbor who lives within 10 ft of your house in the inner city.
And as far as Race. We all know that Blacks have been deprived since before the Civil War. Ever hear of Slavery? Anyway, most of the inner city where it's crowded has a predominately black population these days. And you know the rest of the story how their voting rights are being restricted in many ways. Either it's having a driver's license for voting ID or changing voting districts, eliminating early voting, or eliminating voting boxes or slowing the mail down by putting an idiot in charge of the US Postage Service (Yes TRUMP DID that) and it takes time and effort to replace the board who can replace him). I could go on more, but we all get the picture.[/QUOTE]
Help me out here:
You noted high population areas have more crime because people live closer together and so are more likely to have "problems with their neighbor"? How does that account for drive by shootings, drug use, stealing cars, breaking in homes, smash and grab, and looting? don't you think instead this might all be based on family upbringing and treachings of what is moral, ethic, respectful, or responsible? Forget about the race thing. Are you actually wanting me to believe black crime rates are high solely based on racial concerns, or does it have a heck of a lot to do with how these folks were taught growing up? And equally true for any race, so not singling out any one race.
Deprived......everyone in the race....everyone??? No...what about Obama, Harris, Cosby, Flip Wilson, Martin Luther King, or better yet check out this list [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_billionaires[/url]
Ya know, I'm not racist and never have been, but I do expect people of any race to treat me with the same respect I treat them.
Wht if we got off the race things a s a national anthem and got back to treating all folks equally and instead of talking in gross generalities, instead if a racist incident occurs prosecute the heck out of the perp.
[QUOTE=ZoraSpook;584834]Help me out here:
You noted high population areas have more crime because people live closer together and so are more likely to have "problems with their neighbor"? How does that account for drive by shootings, drug use, stealing cars, breaking in homes, smash and grab, and looting? don't you think instead this might all be based on family upbringing and treachings of what is moral, ethic, respectful, or responsible? Forget about the race thing. Are you actually wanting me to believe black crime rates are high solely based on racial concerns, or does it have a heck of a lot to do with how these folks were taught growing up? And equally true for any race, so not singling out any one race.
Deprived......everyone in the race....everyone??? No...what about Obama, Harris, Cosby, Flip Wilson, Martin Luther King, or better yet check out this list [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_billionaires[/url]
Ya know, I'm not racist and never have been, but I do expect people of any race to treat me with the same respect I treat them.
Wht if we got off the race things a s a national anthem and got back to treating all folks equally and instead of talking in gross generalities, instead if a racist incident occurs prosecute the heck out of the perp.[/QUOTE]
Growing up poor and in a crowded neighborhood may be the root cause of that type of upbring. Crime can happen in a less densely occupied neighborhood also. For example I moved from the inner city back in 1958 when the exodus of whites was moving to the country and out of the city here. We have surburban sprawl due to that exodus. Anyway I digress. We have 1 acre of ground and the neighbors to our right and left all have the same 1 acre plot of land. We are not right on top of each other but we are still close enough. We use to have rose bushes surrounding the entire properly boundary and that made for good neighbors and privacy. Those are long gone as one of our neighbors cut them down on her side and since they were too close to the property line they hung back too far on our side so we ended up cutting them down. Eventually the back roses were cut down and the rose bushes on the other side were cut down. We didn't have any along the front of the property IIRC. Years later after a few dispute over my german shepard getting loose and running into their yard and scaring them to death they ended up shooting my dog with a bb gun. That lead to the neighborhood feud which lasted for some years. Eventually they put up a 6 ft talk wooden fence. And you know the old saying. Fences make good neighbors. Eventually we forgave and forgot and were friends again and back on speaking terms. My point? Even if you don't live in the inner city with houses only 10 ft apart you can still have neighborhood disputes. And even if you live in the suburbs there is still crime. My neighbors youngest son walked across my driveway while I was working on my new fishing boat. Dad and I had just returned from fishing Patoka Lake and I was cleaning up my boat. I place the three $50 each life vests on the deck of the boat and two were on the pedestal seats to dry out. The next morning my camo life jacket was gone. Years later I worked with the 2nd oldest brother at a laboratory. He was our salesman and I was in QC. We were going out to play gold with some clients and afterwards he took me out to his house in the country. We entered the house though the garage and as I was walking by his boat I saw my life jacket. It then dawned on me that his younger brother, Chris, had been the one that stole my life jacket out of my boat that night. Their father never punished them for stealing things so they did it frequently. There were for boys and not enough money to go around to buy everyone a life jacket. And they all liked to go waterfowl hunting. Thus of all the life vest on my boat that night he took the camo one. So thief can occur even in less densely populated neighborhoods. Now we didn't go out shooting each other like they do in the inner city in a really large highly populated city like New York or Chicago or Detroit. But I'm surprised that you can't see that people living in large cities close to each other promotes more crime and violence. Now that is a general statement and you can break it down into various crimes but the point is there is more crime in the larger cities due to the fact that there are more people living their. Compare that to a place like Wyoming or Utah where the populations are much lower than say IN or New York State or California. With wide open spaces and homes mile apart there is less crime. But there is less population so any crime stands out and if you look at the ratio of crime to 100,000 people the RATES are higher than you would think.
It's sort of like looking at Percentages instead of total numbers. It changes the perspective. And that is all I was doing.
[QUOTE=Moveon;584840]Growing up poor and in a crowded neighborhood may be the root cause of that type of upbring. Crime can happen in a less densely occupied neighborhood also. For example I moved from the inner city back in 1958 when the exodus of whites was moving to the country and out of the city here. We have surburban sprawl due to that exodus. Anyway I digress. We have 1 acre of ground and the neighbors to our right and left all have the same 1 acre plot of land. We are not right on top of each other but we are still close enough. We use to have rose bushes surrounding the entire properly boundary and that made for good neighbors and privacy. Those are long gone as one of our neighbors cut them down on her side and since they were too close to the property line they hung back too far on our side so we ended up cutting them down. Eventually the back roses were cut down and the rose bushes on the other side were cut down. We didn't have any along the front of the property IIRC. Years later after a few dispute over my german shepard getting loose and running into their yard and scaring them to death they ended up shooting my dog with a bb gun. That lead to the neighborhood feud which lasted for some years. Eventually they put up a 6 ft talk wooden fence. And you know the old saying. Fences make good neighbors. Eventually we forgave and forgot and were friends again and back on speaking terms. My point? Even if you don't live in the inner city with houses only 10 ft apart you can still have neighborhood disputes. And even if you live in the suburbs there is still crime. My neighbors youngest son walked across my driveway while I was working on my new fishing boat. Dad and I had just returned from fishing Patoka Lake and I was cleaning up my boat. I place the three $50 each life vests on the deck of the boat and two were on the pedestal seats to dry out. The next morning my camo life jacket was gone. Years later I worked with the 2nd oldest brother at a laboratory. He was our salesman and I was in QC. We were going out to play gold with some clients and afterwards he took me out to his house in the country. We entered the house though the garage and as I was walking by his boat I saw my life jacket. It then dawned on me that his younger brother, Chris, had been the one that stole my life jacket out of my boat that night. Their father never punished them for stealing things so they did it frequently. There were for boys and not enough money to go around to buy everyone a life jacket. And they all liked to go waterfowl hunting. Thus of all the life vest on my boat that night he took the camo one. So thief can occur even in less densely populated neighborhoods. Now we didn't go out shooting each other like they do in the inner city in a really large highly populated city like New York or Chicago or Detroit. But I'm surprised that you can't see that people living in large cities close to each other promotes more crime and violence. Now that is a general statement and you can break it down into various crimes but the point is there is more crime in the larger cities due to the fact that there are more people living their. Compare that to a place like Wyoming or Utah where the populations are much lower than say IN or New York State or California. With wide open spaces and homes mile apart there is less crime. But there is less population so any crime stands out and if you look at the ratio of crime to 100,000 people the RATES are higher than you would think.
It's sort of like looking at Percentages instead of total numbers. It changes the perspective. And that is all I was doing.[/QUOTE]
Good comments, good points, and I agree denser population areas may give rise to select types of actions and related crimes. My point is that given that folks that live in those areas have to take personal responsibility and moderate their actions for just that reason assuming they do want to reduce local crime counts and rates and feel safer in their homes neighbor hoods .
And I do agree social circumstances can set the stage for select crimes, but that ya where personal discipline and accepting responsibility has to step in and that’s where the family comes in, and that is where the failing begins.
[QUOTE=ZoraSpook;584857]Good comments, good points, and I agree denser population areas may give rise to select types of actions and related crimes. My point is that given that folks that live in those areas have to take personal responsibility and moderate their actions for just that reason assuming they do want to reduce local crime counts and rates and feel safer in their homes neighbor hoods .
And I do agree social circumstances can set the stage for select crimes, but that ya where personal discipline and accepting responsibility has to step in and that’s where the family comes in, and that is where the failing begins.[/QUOTE]
I agree with personal responsibility. No matter where you live or your financial conditions you should conduct yourself with respect for others.