hows this for unethical!!

my fishing partner and i had a really good night on green river lake during the friday night tournament last week.so we show up last night and everyone is teasing us like we all do in good nature.we all notice a guy that puts his boat in along with us and is waiting for the blast off,but the tourny director knows he didnt pay.we take off(i have an alum. boat with a 90 4-stroke so i am usually the last one out of the hole),my buddy looks back and low and behold this PUKE is following us and not even trying to be sneaky!we get to our spot,set down,throw a buoy out,he does a circle around us and leaves and then comes back with 2 more friends!there is a club tourn. coming up so is this how you practice?if this is acceptable it would save me 1000's in gas money and sunscreen!!feel free to express other things you've witnessed and mabey these idiots will read and figure out you should'nt do this.i'm through ranting now,thanks for the therapy,RED.

Now you know what it is like to be a guide that gets recognized by some of these types....I wouldn't hold any hopes that any amount of complaining on here will change thier habits...folks that do things like this have no or very little conscious and certainly no sense of moral values. Basically about the same amount of moral character as a thief.

Sounds like someone looking for honey holes for their next time out on their own. Might even be fishing against you the next time as well, you'll pull up to your spot and this boat will already be camped on your spot.

But some people are truly looking to learn as well and are looking and seeing how guys with more experience are doing and learning from that... Take it for what it's worth, they see you as a better than average fisherman and are following you around not only to learn the lake and it's good spots but watching how to fish a particular area of the lake....

Can I follow you around also and learn...lol....:D:):D

It sukks. It's unethical. But it's a public lake and I guess he can do that. He's scum...no doubt about it, but there's nothing you can do. Some people are just trashy losers and you have to live with it.

I guess you could find out what club he's fishing in and inform some of the members what he was doing. Other than that you'll just have to grin and bare it.

[quote=DaveStewart;301879]Now you know what it is like to be a guide that gets recognized by some of these types....I wouldn't hold any hopes that any amount of complaining on here will change thier habits...folks that do things like this have no or very little conscious and certainly no sense of moral values. Basically about the same amount of moral character as a thief.[/quote]

It had to be real bad for you Dave when you were in that pretty 'nanner colored boat this spring.

Man it seems it never ends, for me and a partner down in Louisiana it was the opposite we were pleasure fishing on a marsh flat at an tide water cut we were the only ones in about a 5 mile radius catching any keepers we had our marine radio on and had no idea that we were being watched untill someone radioed out that there was a 21footer catching at the cut well we had about had our limit of Reds and were switching up rigs for specks and this blue water monsters comes at us at 20 or 30 miles an hour and he wakes towards us and stops between us and the spot we were casting and mean around 10 feet in front of us, well there was five of these guys on there and one standing on the fly deck said you boys are going to have to move we are in a tourny and need to fish here so go ahead move along. Well I am an old Staff SGT Scout and my partner is 6ft 4 and weighed in at about 340 so between us they got 560 pounds of pissed off red neck we kindly ask them to move their very pretty big expensive boat off of our spot, as we had put a call into the Federal fish and game officer, and they just laughed and said 5 to 2 says we were here first. Then as a nice gesture he hit his bilge pump and sprayed crap all over the side of our boat well big Dan decided he was going to board their boat and have a party and the captian pulled a 38 and said he had let other folks find there way home from 20 miles off shore with out a boat before go ahead and get on board. well to shorten it up a bit In Louisiana it may be 50 to 100 miles to the nearest peace officer so most of the time you have to learn to do one of two things run faster or hit harder well his boat was defintly faster so we showed him we could hit harder. Remember this is happening on a salt water marsh at the edge of the gulf so we got aligators and sharks and just about every thing that can bite or sting I always crryed a 44mag Ruger Super Black Hawk, and Dan well he just had to out do me he pulled out a mossberg marine 12 gage with extended mag stacked with 00buck and deer slugs every other round, it had rifle sights on it and since the Smart A--
were looking the other way he drew a bead on a solid brass deep sea penn reel that was set to troll blue water with on the back of the boat a second later it had a half inch hole on one side needless to say we got are fishing spot back. I am not saying this was the right way to handle the problem and we should have just took the boat number and reported it to the rangers but at the time I had less brains and bigger Ba--- well you know what I mean but every once in awhile wouldn't a pellet gun in the dark be fun

Denni

Wow Big Poppy,

Sounds like you had yourself some fun fer sure...... But you know me being the Retired Army man that I am I ain't condoning violence, no sir not me......But I bet that reel looked real nice with that 1/2 inch hole clean thru it....lol

5 to 2 don't matter when your guns are bigger and you got more of them I say.......

Dang Big Poppy, you showed those guys! I know it probably wasn't legal, but it sounds like in this situation that it was the right thing to do.

In reality, they should have offered you 50 bucks or so for your fishing spot.

The sad thing was that had they just came over there to us we would have probably moved along anyway because we had our creel on the reds already. Specaled trout and red fish compete for the same food sources and if the Reds are schooled on a hole more than likely the trout are not going to be in there, and they prefer rocky out crops or reefs than sandy points. butthere will always be the guy who has watched you fish and when you make a hook up, and your landing the fish, he is going to throw right back to the spot you were fishing. Back in the 60s all the way up untill the early 90s the spillway at Barren River was nothing short of fishing heaven! if the fish lived in Kentucky you could catch one down below the dam and a bunch of them. and there was always a bunch of big ones so you could be picky. As a matter of fact we were there the day the state record was caught Hybrid stripe. And to be honest the fish was about average for what we used to call the hog trough. most of us cut our teeth as kids catching 5 to 10 pounders and creels full of slab crappie, There were large numbers large and small mouth bass there too!. Then in the late 70.s Bowling Green started getting alot of refugees from Cambodia, and Viet Nam. At first they played the I don't understand cards and after awhile they figured out that if they watched a local catching fish and they surounded him with their family and friends he would soon leave. and for a while they nearly took control of the race way, luckly they had no experince with hard fighting Hybrids and left them alone so that fishery stayed alive and strong. so this was another way uninvited guest messed up the party.

How would this differ from the scores of anglers that go out and follow the pro's at every tournament? Maybe they were just fans of yours. Or maybe they were looking for a good a.. wooping! It was at night, right....Life is short take in stride and enjoy the sport. If sometime you are fishing an this guy is fishing against you, well you know what to do.

I agree george, while its wrong what this guy did, its just a fish, confront him, talk to him about you not agreeing with him following you around. You can take two options here, play small ball and kill him with kindness, tell him where and why the fish are there and how you been catching them, if the guy still has the audacity to come in on you then whip his arse. Or you can belittle him, confront him with the how and why the fish are there and how you are better than him and he couldn't catch them any other way than to follow you around, and he STILL couldn't catch them like you.....Either way...confront him....don't let him pretend its not an issue.

[quote=BigPoppy;301948]Man it seems it never ends, for me and a partner down in Louisiana it was the opposite we were pleasure fishing on a marsh flat at an tide water cut we were the only ones in about a 5 mile radius catching any keepers we had our marine radio on and had no idea that we were being watched untill someone radioed out that there was a 21footer catching at the cut well we had about had our limit of Reds and were switching up rigs for specks and this blue water monsters comes at us at 20 or 30 miles an hour and he wakes towards us and stops between us and the spot we were casting and mean around 10 feet in front of us, well there was five of these guys on there and one standing on the fly deck said you boys are going to have to move we are in a tourny and need to fish here so go ahead move along. Well I am an old Staff SGT Scout and my partner is 6ft 4 and weighed in at about 340 so between us they got 560 pounds of pissed off red neck we kindly ask them to move their very pretty big expensive boat off of our spot, as we had put a call into the Federal fish and game officer, and they just laughed and said 5 to 2 says we were here first. Then as a nice gesture he hit his bilge pump and sprayed crap all over the side of our boat well big Dan decided he was going to board their boat and have a party and the captian pulled a 38 and said he had let other folks find there way home from 20 miles off shore with out a boat before go ahead and get on board. well to shorten it up a bit In Louisiana it may be 50 to 100 miles to the nearest peace officer so most of the time you have to learn to do one of two things run faster or hit harder well his boat was defintly faster so we showed him we could hit harder. Remember this is happening on a salt water marsh at the edge of the gulf so we got aligators and sharks and just about every thing that can bite or sting I always crryed a 44mag Ruger Super Black Hawk, and Dan well he just had to out do me he pulled out a mossberg marine 12 gage with extended mag stacked with 00buck and deer slugs every other round, it had rifle sights on it and since the Smart A--
were looking the other way he drew a bead on a solid brass deep sea penn reel that was set to troll blue water with on the back of the boat a second later it had a half inch hole on one side needless to say we got are fishing spot back. I am not saying this was the right way to handle the problem and we should have just took the boat number and reported it to the rangers but at the time I had less brains and bigger Ba--- well you know what I mean but every once in awhile wouldn't a pellet gun in the dark be fun

Denni[/quote]
Dude....no disrespect intended :) but wow! Funny how growing older can make you understand how things could have been handled differently. Less brains and bigger ba---....i could use that excuse on a few things myself! :p