Of all the nerve.

Mexico's President Claderon addressing Congress on CNN says:
1. He wants to increase employment opportunitites for Mexicans
2. He thinks the US has to reform immigration laws
3. He condemns Arizona's actions to stop and question the nationality of folks they believe have illegally immigrated.

Who does this guy think he is? First, his subtle message is he wants to have employment gains in Mexico, reduce unemployment there, by having his unemployed folks cross the border and take jobs here in America. That sounds like he's glad the unemployed Mexicans are leaving the country, dimminishing his unemployment rate.

Second, who is he to tell us to change immigration laws to make it easier for his folks to "escape" his country. Why doesn't he set up fences and force his people to stay in their "own backyard" until they can immigrate legally. When the neighbors kids sneak into my yard, its my neighbors problem to control his kids.

Third, if he doesn't want his people stopped on the streets of America, then he needs to prevent them from coming here. Since they are not legal citizens, they are NOT protected by our constitutional laws. If a 6 foot 2 inch 300 pound, red haired white guy holds up a convenience store, and runs away, guess what happens to you if your are walking down the street, meet that description, and a cop comes by? You get stopped and questioned, based solely on how you look and where you happend to be.

If Mexicans are coming into Arizona illegally, in violation of US law, and you look like a Mexican, then guess what? Somebody with a badge ought be able to have probable cause based on how you look to ask you to prove you are legal. When I was 20, and hit a bar, somebody asked me for proof of age based on how I looked, too young.

Last quip, federal law prohibits employers from hiring folks without conducting an I-9 process to ensure they are lawful citizens elligible to be employed. So, don't raid the employees, raid a business on a random basis, and force the employer, as directed by law, to show you the records that proves everyone he employees is legal. Those he can't prove are legal, I think give the feds probable cause to question that employee and require prove of citizenship.

What nerve El Mexico Presidente. If you were my neighbor, and said that to me, my answer would be just what I wish this country would tell Mexico:
"Shut up, clean up your own mess, control your people, or we are darn sure going to do it for you on our lawful side of the border. If you don't stop your folks on your side, we consider it to be a sign you are consenting to the behavior, and so we will hold you as a country responsible for the medical bills, crime, damages these folks cause. Just like we would do with a neighbors kids, or their pets".

I still think we ought to landmine the area right inside ourside of the border fence, and let the first couple illegals turn into dust clouds to show the rest of their friends its safer to do it legally. I guess somewould call that prejudicial/discrimination as only the idiots in the minefield would be susceptible to being blown up.

I saw all that crap to, and mentioned one part of it in the other post. I'd run that Sum Beach back across the border so fast it would make your head swim.

I agree with you Bob, blow'em up, if they make it through the first field take'em out with a 50 cal with the right guy leaning over it. I'm TRUELY SICK of this crap.

[QUOTE=HURRICANEBOB;415456]Mexico's President Claderon addressing Congress on CNN says:
1. He wants to increase employment opportunitites for Mexicans
2. He thinks the US has to reform immigration laws
3. He condemns Arizona's actions to stop and question the nationality of folks they believe have illegally immigrated.....[/QUOTE]

1) Good idea. Claderon can do that in Mexico.

2) Actually, we to inforce the laws that we already have on the books before we consider other laws.

3) That is the only one I might have an issue with, only because it has the potential to be discriminantory.

Note that its not just some Mexicans who are here illegally.

Agree that we need to be hitting employers to insure that they are only hiring legal workers.

Andrew

Isn't it sad that as even give him a platform to speak? I rank this up there with the president of Iran coming over here to speak. We gotta have more important things to do than let crooks and terrorists speak and have this grand stage to speak their garbage.

[QUOTE=apb;415466]1)Note that its not just some Mexicans who are here illegally.[/QUOTE]

I know it's not just Mexicans living here illegally...I guess my question is, are the Mexicans the largest population living here illegally? For instance, aren't there more illegal Mexicans here than there are Chinese people?

If that country wasn't so corrupt, and governed by a few, those folks might stay there and find jobs. But SOMEONE illegaly hires them, deport them also. Shows what a bunch of clowns we have in congress, or are they bored and need entertainment.

[QUOTE=apb;415466]1) Good idea. Claderon can do that in Mexico.

2) Actually, we to inforce the laws that we already have on the books before we consider other laws.

3) That is the only one I might have an issue with, only because it has the potential to be discriminantory.

Note that its not just some Mexicans who are here illegally.

Agree that we need to be hitting employers to insure that they are only hiring legal workers.

Andrew[/QUOTE]Actually the Arizona law does not allow for discrimination but the federal law does allow law enforcement stop a person and check if they are here legally and the Supreme Court has rule in favor of this. What would Calderon thought if we would have enacted the Mexican immigration law?

Got it. To avoid discrimination claims:

Mondays: Check everyone who looks like a Martian
Tuesday: Check eveyone who wears a bikini
Wednesday: Check only people who look Canadien (They all wear hockey jerseys)
Thursday: Check everyone suspected of being American. Say the word Obama. If they laugh, cry, or roll their eyes, they are American.
Fridays: Check only people who look like Arnold Swartznagger.
Saturday: Check for people who speak Spanish, smell like tacos, and only answer your questions with "no habla englesa"
Sunday: Repeat the Saturday checks, but home in on the folks that are stuck in barbed wire fences.

[QUOTE=HURRICANEBOB;415580]Got it. To avoid discrimination claims:

Mondays: Check everyone who looks like a Martian
Tuesday: Check eveyone who wears a bikini
Wednesday: Check only people who look Canadien (They all wear hockey jerseys)
Thursday: Check everyone suspected of being American. Say the word Obama. If they laugh, cry, or roll their eyes, they are American.
Fridays: Check only people who look like Arnold Swartznagger.
Saturday: Check for people who speak Spanish, smell like tacos, and only answer your questions with "no habla englesa"
Sunday: Repeat the Saturday checks, but home in on the folks that are stuck in barbed wire fences.[/QUOTE]
That's good Hurricane, but if we electrify the fence we could take Sunday off

[QUOTE=smokefan;415599]That's good Hurricane, but if we electrify the fence we could take Sunday off[/QUOTE]

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