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[B]Baby Cheyenne Story Part 1 [/B]
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Sounds to me like the Social Workers and Police seized that baby before the parents could take her home and abuse her. The mother said they already lost their sons. I have worked with many many of these young parents and when a baby has to be apprehended here there has to be real threat or evidence of physical harm.
All parents are strongly told to take anger management courses, parenting programs and go to counselling. I lay you odds these 2 parents did NONE of those things to become better parents. All they do is keep producing more babies. If the Gov't had to step in on a new born then this little baby was in serious harm. Thank God those workers were on the ball to save this child. I have always worked to uphold the law and to protect the innocent. This little baby is an innocent and needs to be protected. I hope more comes out as to the abuse of their sons that they lost. People should lose their rights when they abuse their own kids:mad:.
[QUOTE=Big Gills;429230]Sounds to me like the Social Workers and Police seized that baby before the parents could take her home and abuse her. The mother said they already lost their sons. I have worked with many many of these young parents and when a baby has to be apprehended here there has to be real threat or evidence of physical harm.
All parents are strongly told to take anger management courses, parenting programs and go to counselling. I lay you odds these 2 parents did NONE of those things to become better parents. All they do is keep producing more babies. If the Gov't had to step in on a new born then this little baby was in serious harm. Thank God those workers were on the ball to save this child. I have always worked to uphold the law and to protect the innocent. This little baby is an innocent and needs to be protected. I hope more comes out as to the abuse of their sons that they lost. People should lose their rights when they abuse their own kids:mad:.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Gills for actually doing a little research. Some conspiracy theorists only read what fuels their agenda.
maybe the gubment needs to step in and fix these two parents so that they can't contribute to the gene pool anymore. Make them so they can't produce offspring again......
Do you have proof that the parents abused the first two boys? I didnt see any evidence presented one way or another. Call me a conspiracy theorist of you want to, but who is to say they did anything wrong with teh first two boys? Maybe all three children were taken without cause?
I am just playin devils advocate here...
Wlakeraviator, the public (us) will not have any proof of anything one way or the other. There was not evidence presented in the video, it was all one sided opinion form the parents. However, as much as I hate government interference in private lives, I believe that Child Protective Services only take children out of a home when they have very good proof of abuse or neglect. I am sure they sometimes make mistakes but in these cases it is better to err on the side of safety than to let a child die or be severaly abused. If they took her other children from her, it only stands to reason that they would think any newborn would be in just as much danger of the first two were.
Now, if you had written this, you would have been a real Devil's Advocate!!
Grumpy
Child Protection Workers cant just seize children without proof of abuse or neglect. They are sworn by confidentiality so you wont hear them being able to explain to the public the truth of their evidence. But the parents are allowed to make up stories to steer away from the truth. Listen to what this boyfriend is saying and not what you want to hear. He says the mother was with an abuser before. A young woman will most likely pick another controlling abuser as a boyfriend. Stats and evidence supports women tend to pick the same type of man unless she has had counselling to change. She is very young. Maybe this boyfriend abuses her and Child Protection wont let the mother take the baby home cuz he is there. You would be surprised how many young moms will pick a boyfriend over their baby. If they are so innocent then get a lawyer and work with Child Proctection to get your child home NOT make speeches in front of the hospital. I dont see any emotion from him at all. No tears nor saddness that his baby was taken. THere is more here that meets the eye. Its not only abuse it can be neglect. THis young couple could be going out partying getting drunk etc and leaving their kids at home alone. Or selling drugs from home. THere are many reasons why they may be unfit parents. So dont just listen to what the boyfriend has to say as he may be lying But look at what the facts are. They already lost 2 or 3 sons and that is a big red flag to me. Just my opinion.
Thanks Margie, that's what I was trying to say.
Grumpy
[QUOTE=Grumpy;429306]Thanks Margie, that's what I was trying to say.
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If I remember right, they took the 1st two boys because of the girls ex husband being abusive.
Yes I believe I heard the young mother and/or her boyfriend say that the first husband was abusive. That well may be the reason the boys were removed as that would be a dangerous environment for them to be raised in. Now if that were the only reason then why hasnt she gotten them back since she and her ex are divorced??? Like I say there is way more here that meets the eye. Also most complaints to child protection workers are from family. Maybe her family saw her beaten during this pregnancy with the new boyfriend and called it in which is why they are involved. Lots of unanswered questions here.
[QUOTE=Catfish Bob;429509]If I remember right, they took the 1st two boys because of the girls ex husband being abusive.[/QUOTE]
The question you need to ask yourself is "who said they rook the first two boys for that reason?"
I know, the guy and girl on your video! This is just some bad people trying to tug at the heart strings of conspiracy theorists like yourself.