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yeah... and its hard to put a finger on who is blame really. you cant blame just those two recievers for the losing record. especially when you watch TO play. he runs his routes, catches almost everything within arms reach, and powers through tackles. he is playing much better than Chad. Carson's numbers look bad on paper, but a lot of his incomplete passes and picks were a result of Chad running bad routes. And then there is the streaky offensive line. I believe our running game suffers from an offensive line that cant even stop the dolphins from gettin in the backfield. which in turn allows the defense of our opponents to spend more time covering the recievers leaving us few options to move the chains.
Then there is the defense. last year, they were a force to be reckoned with. But this year, top notch defensive players like Peko, Geathers, and Crocker all are doing squat... it is getting real disheartening being a bengals fan... They gave just a enough years of success to make us forget about the 90's, but now it feels like we are headed back to the basement of the NFL. How long til they blame Lewis? Can it be turned around by coaching what we have, or will it take a real mix up on the roster through trade/draft to get our game back? Maybe getting rid of two showboating wide outs (or just one and i dont mean TO)... maybe drafting some young blood for the offensive line.... who knows, maybe Carson is in need of replacement...
when all else fails and you feel down as a Bengal fan... just remember it could be worse... you could be a Dallas Cowboy fan this year...
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Chad Johnson and Terrell Owens are the two MOST OVERERATED recievers in football. Lewis needs to be fired and they need to clean house of all useless baggage.
Re: TOcho Show CANCELLED!!!!
[QUOTE=mhall;431315] Lewis needs to be fired and they need to clean house of all useless baggage.[/QUOTE]
Hold on a second there. I can definitely see getting rid of TOcho.
But if they get rid of Marvin, who the bleep else they going to get to coach to rebuild the Bungles all over again for the um teenth time. Marvin has proven he can get the job done. So he took a bad gamble (so far) on the TOcho. S happens.
[QUOTE=walkeraviator;431310] you cant blame just those two recievers for the losing record. especially when you watch TO play. he runs his routes, catches almost everything within arms reach, and powers through tackles. he is playing much better than Chad. ...[/QUOTE]
Were obviously not observing the same TO. The TO I've watched this season--gives up on routes, drops most balls over the middle, interceptions he just completely stops all together. He doesn't give a F if the other teams D gets a pick 6, he aint going to tackle no body its not in his contract.
Re: TOcho Show CANCELLED!!!!
[QUOTE=mhall;431315]Chad Johnson and Terrell Owens are the two MOST OVERERATED recievers in football. Lewis needs to be fired and they need to clean house of all useless baggage.[/QUOTE]
But...but they have a tv shows! :p That makes them good right??? :rolleyes::)
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Im with Bob. Marvin Lewis took a losing team to the playoffs. I do believe the owners are slightly to blame in Cincy as well. When Chris Henry (rest his soul) was kicked off the team, Lewis swore he would never take that man back. The owners said they wanted him back and Lewis could either eat crow or find another job. This is a problem in most of the NFL... the owners love to undermine the team in the interest of a quick buck.
As for the team itself... i stand by my belief that the Offensive Line is teh primary problem with this team.
Re: TOcho Show CANCELLED!!!!
I am with Walker, the O line has been very inconsistent this season. Also, the defense which was good last year is not playing up to expectations. My personal opinio is that T.O. has played well and Ocho has been mediocre, but when your QB is getting pressured all day that doesn't help and Carson has not been the same since the injury a few years back.
