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[QUOTE=GeoFisher;494504][ATTACH=CONFIG]3839[/ATTACH][/QUOTE][URL]http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/12/1082967/-Talking-to-Conservatives[/URL]
I would love to know the countries that followed those 4 principles that have a great middle class and are not in worse financial shape than we are in. The problem is when you have these programs the people finally figure out how they can abuse the system and not work at all but will take the money from the people who do work. The longer the programs are in existence the more they are abused. Why do you think we have 49% of the people on the government hand out and pay 0 taxes but they expect everyone who is working hard and paying taxes to pay more taxes so they can have more of the easy life.
[QUOTE=waterdog101;494510][URL]http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/12/1082967/-Talking-to-Conservatives[/URL][/QUOTE]
Ok waterdog101. I read it.......but it is the same old WORN out argument.
1. We have the most progressive tax system in the WORLD.
[url]http://taxfoundation.org/blog/no-country-leans-upper-income-households-much-us[/url]
2. We have a ton of financial regulation.....and Dodd Frank is going to KILL us in the future.
3. Labor Laws....really.....We have 10 craploads of labor laws. We don't need any more..
4. Keynesian Economics......So, of all the countries practicing Keynesian Economics....AS BIG as ours which ones are successful. NONE. If you have not noticed, all of Europe is suffering, and suffering worse than we are. And also, you realize without our 800 BILLION dollar bailout, many, MANY foreign banks would be out of business, and the world would be worse off.
[url]http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/get-ready-to-taste-the-bitter-side-of-keynesian-economics[/url]
[QUOTE=waterdog101;494510][URL]http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/12/1082967/-Talking-to-Conservatives[/URL][/QUOTE]
I read it but thought the poster wandered way to much. Talk about chest pounding? That poster was full of it. Being a conservative doesn't mean your against taxes or helping people or social security. We just want accountability for this stuff. Paying taxes is a part of how we live as a society. Crooked liars like we have running the country is not acceptable. Anything wrong with wanting to stop the reckless spending by our elected officials? From both sides!!!!!
According to that poster we should all give up more of what we have and give to the less fortunate? World hunger and pain is not my immediate problem. Working my butt off, providing for my family and not being raped by our gubment is what weighs on my mind. Paying my mortgage, finding a way to get my daughter on the right path be it college or military, figuring out how to survive here with all the leeches who feel entitled to my money......these are my immediate concerns.
I pay my taxes and my money goes to help others all over the world via foreign aid. It also helps folks here in the USA. We have plenty of problems here in this country I wish we would take care of our own first before we give so much away to other countries and illegals. Maybe taking care of our veterans is a real priority? It is to me but that poster didn't mention that. He prolly feels better helping some poor kid walking the streets than a person who gave the country years of his/her life. Possibly injured following orders and could need help for the remainder of their lives. I side with veterans every time.
Like I said before we are not being led by leaders in this country we are being led by politicians who only want to control the money and are incapable of knowing what all us middle class folks have to deal with.
Im a conservative Independant thinking man and would really like to see a leader from any walk of life or political party step up and do what's right for us all not whats right for them or their party.
[QUOTE=DJD;494522] Im a conservative Independant thinking man and would really like to see a leader from any walk of life or political party step up and do what's right for us all not whats right for them or their party.[/QUOTE]
Change the conservative to liberal leaning and thats my thoughts too.
Andrew