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i have always assumed that a private owner has full rights over his/her pond or lake. Reading the latest regulations magazine i noticed the fishing regulation apply to all public and private waters. This is outrageous. No wonder there aren't any pond management businesses in this state.
Maybe I am missing the logic behind their thinking, but I agree with you. If a person builds and stocks a private pond I don't see any detriment to the state in him harvesting more than the daily limit if he chose to one day, or on another day let his young grandson keep a fish that is one inch too small to be legal. Of course I wonder how they would ever know about it in the first place?
i aint trying to ruffle no feathers but think of it from a hunting aspect if you shoot what ever or more than your limit the population is depleted. Now from a fishing stand point all they are doing is regulating the fish so that there is a healthy fish population in the future.. I see what you guys are saying but to each his own. And if you pay for the fish adn have them stocked they are still considered a game species in the state so they fall under state regulations. They have minimum standards set that cannot be lowered but more stringent regulations can be placed on certain bodies of water.
Hunting is completely different because game animals travel across property lines, and of course nobody owns the wild animals that happen to enter their land.
If a person builds a private pond and stocks it, as those fish multiply they still will never have an effect on the Kentucky's general population of the species. They wouldn't even exist if it weren't for the person efforts in the first place.
I would need a link to the regulations before I accepted that.
I thought the state laws only applied if the state provided the stock for the pond in question. Many people do buy their pond stock from private companies. As such I see no difference between fish and cows. They are yours and you do what you want with them.
[QUOTE=restornator;510630]i have always assumed that a private owner has full rights over his/her pond or lake. Reading the latest regulations magazine i noticed the fishing regulation apply to all public and private waters. This is outrageous. No wonder there aren't any pond management businesses in this state.[/QUOTE]
Don't know where you got your info but, Resident/owner ,spouse and dependent children can fish without a license on their land . Same applies to a tennant who lives and works on the land. Also a serviceman on leave for more than 3 days can fish statewide without a license. Check page 13 this year's guide under license requirements. Not new been like this for as long as I can remember
I looked it up when I read the original post. This is what I assumed he was referring to.
[quote]STATEWIDE SIZE AND CREEL
LIMITS
Fishing season is open year-round
in Kentucky, except on waterfowl refuges
and as otherwise noted in this guide.
Statewide size and creel limits apply to
all Kentucky waters, public [B]and private[/B],
except some waters have different limits
(see, “Special Fishing Regulations”.)
[/quote]
[URL]http://fw.ky.gov/pdf/2013fishguideregs.pdf[/URL]
[QUOTE=monarc;510654]Don't know where you got your info but, Resident/owner ,spouse and dependent children can fish without a license on their land . Same applies to a tennant who lives and works on the land. Also a serviceman on leave for more than 3 days can fish statewide without a license. Check page 13 this year's guide under license requirements. Not new been like this for as long as I can remember[/QUOTE]
yeah you are right, but size and creel limits apply to private lakes. I was watching a KYAfield video, and Tim Farmer mentioned the same thing. I thought he was misinformed. here's the video: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEum-DHh1F4]Farm Pond Problems - YouTube[/url]
IMO they really got this one crossed up. Tim says the reason the lake no longer has large bass is due to greedy overharvesting. He is on the side of KDFW with regard to privately owned regulations. There are several causes of a weak bass population. Fish kills can go unnoticed on secluded lakes, and underharvesting will cause stunted bass. He mentioned the lack of fry bluegill in the weeds, the tell-tale sign of a bass crowded pond. The 12 inch size limit on largemouth would remove the largest bass as well. It is wiser to take out the small bass if the owner wants 5+lb fish.
[QUOTE=SLP;510631] Of course I wonder how they would ever know about it in the first place?[/QUOTE]
exactly, so why is it in law?
If I own both sides of a non-navigable stream for several miles and I do not allow access to fish on it should I have to also follow those regulations?
I mean I am not allowed to even keep brook trout and they are on my land and in the stream that I have full control over.
[QUOTE=restornator;510670]yeah you are right, but size and creel limits apply to private lakes. I was watching a KYAfield video, and Tim Farmer mentioned the same thing. I thought he was misinformed. here's the video: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEum-DHh1F4]Farm Pond Problems - YouTube[/url]
IMO they really got this one crossed up. Tim says the reason the lake no longer has large bass is due to greedy overharvesting. He is on the side of KDFW with regard to privately owned regulations. There are several causes of a weak bass population. Fish kills can go unnoticed on secluded lakes, and underharvesting will cause stunted bass. He mentioned the lack of fry bluegill in the weeds, the tell-tale sign of a bass crowded pond. The 12 inch size limit on largemouth would remove the largest bass as well. It is wiser to take out the small bass if the owner wants 5+lb fish.[/QUOTE]
Nuke it. Completley legal and a fresh start.
It may be helpful to understand the perspective of these regulations which is we may own land but we do not own the living creatures of the wild on that land. The ones that can come and go as they please do so but even those than can not are viewed the same. Of course they know that if you own both sides of a stream that has Brooke trout you could harvest them and there simply isn't a lot they can do about it. In that case, the regulations are there to help provide a guide line. I would also assume those regulations can help protect you if you or they catch someone fishing or hunting on your property.