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[TD="class: xl22, width: 169"]$10,699,804,864,612
So you think Mr.Romney would have paid off 1.5 T before he took office?[/TD]
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All kidding aside do you remember how bad it was under Carter?
Yes sir I do.... Mr Carter was a lousy president but he was not the president who kick started massive over spending....[/QUOTE]
I will answer your question, no i doubt very seriously 1.5 trillion wouldve been paid off.... And after 6 years of your liberal party in control, what is that amount today... How much has it grown in the last 6 years? I do feel strongly that had the election gone differently that the debt would not have increased to this level...I played along and answered your question, so will you kindly reply with the amount of current debt after the liberals have had control for 6 years?
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[QUOTE=201stratos;542777]I will answer your question, no i doubt very seriously 1.5 trillion wouldve been paid off.... And after 6 years of your liberal party in control, what is that amount today... How much has it grown in the last 6 years? I do feel strongly that had the election gone differently that the debt would not have increased to this level...I played along and answered your question, so will you kindly reply with the amount of current debt after the liberals have had control for 6 years?[/QUOTE]
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!8T and that is a massive amount of debt... Mr Romney had aspirations for national healthcare, why would you think that would not have been a disaster also... BO is still 2T or so behind bush2 and doesn't have any chance of catching Mr. Reagan.... The debt might eventually bury us but this president has been neither the first nor the worst... If you guys get your wish the next election and he fares as well as the last republican president, the debt will be something like 40T , lets hope for the future of the country some resemblance of sanity finds its way to leadership... If the welfare cut of the pie was totally eliminated we would still have something like half a T deficit but you guys think the answer is cut out that part of the budget, just doesn't measure up to the facts...
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!8T and that is a massive amount of debt... Mr Romney had aspirations for national healthcare, why would you think that would not have been a disaster also... BO is still 2T or so behind bush2 and doesn't have any chance of catching Mr. Reagan.... [/QUOTE]
WHERE in the HELL do you get your stats?
It is quite easy to find this stuff.
Obama grew debt from 10 trillion to 17.8 trillion. a 7.8 trillion increase.
Bush from 5.6 trillion to 9 trillion of about 4.4 trillion increase.
Reagan 1 trillion to 2.6 trillion. a 1.6 trillion increase.
So if you go by percentages......
Reagan doubled the debt, actually a little more than that.....but it was still less than 30% of GDP.
Bush didn't quite double the debt. But still, it was about 35% of GDP.
Obama not quite double either, but his debt has ballooned to about 45% of GDP.
Don't look at the percentage of growth. I give two craps about that. I really, really CARE about the percentage of GDP.
I know you don't understand simple math so I will explain it to you.
Under Reagan our debt was about 30 cents of a dollar.
Under Bush our debt was about 35 cents of a dollar.
Under Obama our debt is currently 45 cents of a dollar, and headed to 60 cents of a dollar.
GET your head out of your butt, and RECOGNIZE that the benefits and garbage this great country pay out are bankrupting this GREAT COUNTRY.
[url]http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt.htm[/url]
Date Dollar Amount
09/30/2014 17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/1999 5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 1,142,034,000,000.00
09/30/1981 997,855,000,000.00
09/30/1980 907,701,000,000.00
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[QUOTE=Tyme2fish;542712]Everyone just relax. The President has already walked back on the idea of taxing of 529 plans. However, I'm sure he'll come up with something else to tax so everyone can get "free" 2 years of community college.[/QUOTE]
fishing and hunting license
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[QUOTE=roadrunner;542783]fishing and hunting license[/QUOTE]
Now remember RR Barry is really into guns don't you recall that HORRIBLE fake shotgun picture....OMG that was hilarious.
Because all shotguns smoke like muzzle loaders and from the sides of the barrel also. Good Lord you would think that if they got someone to do a fake picture of him shooting skeet with a shotgun they would at least have some knowledge of what it should look like......SMH
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T[B]he first thing that immediately came to mind was man that order would've been right had he made $20 an hour.
[/B]I suspect it would have had a better chance had the person that made it for you made a wage that he didn't want to lose.[/QUOTE]
If they had to pay $20 per hour that guy wouldn't be working there.If you had an employee making $15 and you raised his pay to $20 would he word harder,smarter or be a better employee?
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[QUOTE=mhall;542784]Now remember RR Barry is really into guns don't you recall that HORRIBLE fake shotgun picture....OMG that was hilarious.
Because all shotguns smoke like muzzle loaders and from the sides of the barrel also. Good Lord you would think that if they got someone to do a fake picture of him shooting skeet with a shotgun they would at least have some knowledge of what it should look like......SMH[/QUOTE]
I am so glad you reminded me of the fake photo I got a good chuckle from that and I stand corrected he will tax fishing license.
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[QUOTE=GeoFisher;542780]WHERE in the HELL do you get your stats?
It is quite easy to find this stuff.
Obama grew debt from 10 trillion to 17.8 trillion. a 7.8 trillion increase.
Bush from 5.6 trillion to 9 trillion of about 4.4 trillion increase.
Reagan 1 trillion to 2.6 trillion. a 1.6 trillion increase.
Reagan spent a tremendous amount of that money rebuilding our military and when we became stronger than Russia he ended the cold war money well spent
Bush entire eight years was spent fighting terrorism money we had to spend and was successful and Obama threw it all away.
Obama 7.8 trillion in only six years money wasted on people who got him elected.
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[url]http://www.skymachines.com/us-national-debt-per-capita-percent-of-gdp-and-by-presidental-term.htm[/url]
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[QUOTE=Tyme2fish;542729]Someone is more dense than Osmium. Look it up.[/QUOTE]
I looked it up and you are spot on.
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[QUOTE=Hlleonard;542798][url]http://www.skymachines.com/us-national-debt-per-capita-percent-of-gdp-and-by-presidental-term.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
Your chart is missing 2 years...........how about trying again with something up to date, or is that too much to ask.
AND another thing.......MY DATA is from the us treasury. I tend to trust it a little more. Especially since this is what every single legitimate source utilizes.
Try Again.
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[QUOTE=GeoFisher;542592]You are completely off base..........if you have an iphone and a 50 inch big screen.......you're not poor.
Watch these dumbasses flock to best buy and other places with the gubment assisted tax returns due to earned income credits......
It is amazing to watch these folks buy up goodies when the're so "poor" they cannot afford food.
That iphone that costs 100 bucks a month or that 1200 dollar big screen........by my calculations....that is 200/month for ONE hear to buy FOOD.
If you feel so bad for them.......GIVE up your GUBMENT check to help them out.
Later,
Geo[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Preview--EITC-Income-Limits[/url] this puts a lot of money circulating, and the people that get this money spend it fast.
