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The solution from 1980 through 2008 left us with a debt that went from less than a trillion dollars to over ten trillion dollars and an economy that seemed to be in pretty bad shape at the end of that time... It seems to me the republican agenda (I have a pretty hard time finding democrats in that time frame that added substantially to that debt) got us in worse shape instead of better shape, after 30 years of that crap it would seem to be not working very well so maybe we need to do something a bit different.[/QUOTE]
So you give this admin a pass on their performance from 2008 to 2013? How about the time when the dems controlled congress at the end of GW's time? All that was GOP fault? Being attacked and going to war with dem support.....but Obama isn't at fault for his spending habits and lack of budgets habits??thats the change you speak of?? Hmmmm
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[QUOTE=DJD;522754]So you give this admin a pass on their performance from 2008 to 2013? How about the time when the dems controlled congress at the end of GW's time? All that was GOP fault? Being attacked and going to war with dem support.....but Obama isn't at fault for his spending habits and lack of budgets habits??thats the change you speak of?? Hmmmm[/QUOTE]
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Well... I didn't read anywhere there that I gave a pass to this administration but I do find it a bit ironic that anytime something seems to be a bit left handed with a republican president the right finds a way to interject congress as sharing the blame but when there is a democratic president (obama) they seem to be able to lay the blame for all our problems either financial or social directly on his shoulders, this president has seemingly done us a good deal of financial damage but for you or anybody else to say the first offenders in our budget crisis were anything except republicans presidents is ludicrous, all you have to do is look at the numbers, they speak for themselves... This president might well deserve crucifying but if so the right wing shouldn't have to deny responsibility they share for our present state while embellishing the responsibility the present administration has.
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Well... I didn't read anywhere there that I gave a pass to this administration but I do find it a bit ironic that anytime something seems to be a bit left handed with a republican president the right finds a way to interject congress as sharing the blame but when there is a democratic president (obama) they seem to be able to lay the blame for all our problems either financial or social directly on his shoulders, this president has seemingly done us a good deal of financial damage but for you or anybody else to say the first offenders in our budget crisis were anything except republicans presidents is ludicrous, all you have to do is look at the numbers, they speak for themselves... This president might well deserve crucifying but if so the right wing shouldn't have to deny responsibility they share for our present state while embellishing the responsibility the present administration has.[/QUOTE]
Well that's how I read it.....Plenty of blame for both sides that's for sure. I do hear on a constant basis how Obama isn't to blame for the debt....typical liberal denial by the media. He is FIXING what he inherited. Bush didn't hang his hat on a radical program like obamacare. That is all dem and Obama. No getting around that fact.
I honestly am not a blind GOP supporter. I have a lot of issues with them but not as many as with the dems. I just cannot stand the pass that Obama gets on just about everything. It's sickening.
