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[QUOTE=psprowler;535165]How many large cap mutual funds don't include Pfizer or a handful of the other big player drug manufacturers?[/QUOTE]
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Don't know anything about fund managing but it seems there are options...
In their Supreme Court [URL="http://sblog.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/No-13-354-Brief-for-Respondents.pdf"]complaint[/URL], Hobby Lobby's owners chronicle the many ways in which they avoid entanglements with objectionable companies. Hobby Lobby stores do not sell shot glasses, for example, and the Greens decline requests from beer distributors to back-haul beer on Hobby Lobby trucks.
Similar options exist for companies that want to practice what's sometimes called faith-based investing. To avoid supporting companies that manufacture abortion drugs—or products such as alcohol or pornography—religious investors can turn to a cottage industry of mutual funds that screen out stocks that religious people might consider morally objectionable. The Timothy Plan and the Ave Maria Fund, for example, screen for companies that manufacture abortion drugs, support Planned Parenthood, or engage in embryonic stem cell research. Dan Hardt, a Kentucky financial planner who specializes in faith-based investing, says the performances of these funds are about the same as if they had not been screened. But Hobby Lobby's managers either were not aware of these options or chose not to invest in them.
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[QUOTE=GeoFisher;535168]Do you even have an idea of what PERSONAL responsibility means.[/QUOTE]
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You do realize that you being judgmental of people based on what they should or should not do makes zero difference on the birthrate but access to birth control (in whatever form) actually does don't you?
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[QUOTE=Hlleonard;535170]Hmmm... this is an opinion, not mine but somebodys. you recon there could be any truth in it?
This isn't the only example of Hobby Lobby's rank hypocrisy.
1. Long before Obamacare, 28 states mandated contraceptives be included in all heath insurance policies:
[B][I]Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin[/I][/B]
[URL="http://www.guttmacher.org/statecenter/spibs/spib_ICC.pdf"]http://www.guttmacher.org/statecenter/spibs/spib_I...[/URL]
[B][U][I]2. Hobby Lobby is in every one of those states and is already supplying contraceptive coverage to its employees.[/I][/U][/B]
3. If Hobby Lobby is so concerned about contraceptive coverage, why didn't they sue the States that require them to provide contraceptive coverage?
The majority of the other plaintiffs are in states that require contraception. [U][I][B]Why didn't they sue?[/B][/I][/U]
4. Here's the thing that gives away the game:
[B][U][I]Two of the plaintiffs were in states that DIDN'T required contraception and they yet those companies STILL provided contraceptive coverage, because it was a better and cheaper plan!!!![/I][/U][/B] (Insurance companies know contraception is cheaper than pregnancies.)
Likewise, Romney Care required contraception coverage and Massachusetts is the second most Catholic State in the country and nobody sued the State. Finally, the VA also provides contraceptive care with tax payer's money and no one sued the VA.
Bottom Line: This is an example of "Situational Ethics." These people turn their moral outrage on and off based who is in Office, how much the insurance costs and what party passed the law. That's not my definition of "deeply held moral belief."[/QUOTE]
DUDE.
Stop regurgitating the same silly ********, and read something. actually freakin READ IT.
Hobby Lobby covers every single contraceptive out there. They don't cover MURDER PILLS and IUD's. Read why they don't and you will understand the case.
YOU sound like every other ignorant low information voter on the LEFT.
GOOD GOD. Now I better go mainline my blood pressure medicine.......
Later,
Geo
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You do realize that you being judgmental of people based on what they should or should not do makes zero difference on the birthrate but access to birth control (in whatever form) actually does don't you?[/QUOTE]
No I'm not.
I don't give two shits about the birth rate. It is YOUR responsibility to manage YOUR choices with birth. NOT the gubments.
It is a really ignorant argument that " I got pregnant because the gubment didn't give me birth control".
now go un - ignorant yourself.
Later,
Geo
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[QUOTE=GeoFisher;535182]No I'm not.
I don't give two shits about the birth rate. It is YOUR responsibility to manage YOUR choices with birth. NOT the gubments.
It is a really ignorant argument that " I got pregnant because the gubment didn't give me birth control".
now go un - ignorant yourself.
Later,
Geo[/QUOTE]
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HA... careful Mr. fisher, getting your blood pressure up isn't good for your health...
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Personal responsibility is dead in this country. The days of a politician standing up and encouraging the people to take more control of their own lives is over. Now all I ask is for you all to pay for my fishing license every year. I am a man that has needs. Needs to fish or I just might die. So I think it is now your responsibility to provide this for me every year. It is my right as a man to have a license provided for me by my neighbors, and of course those that don't know me. Unlike another person who campaigned for her right to jump in to hundreds of beds every year and for you and I to pay for protection, I only need a fishing license in TN, KY, and OH. We all know that it has to be in the Constitution. Why, all we need is some dudes and dudetts in black robes to spin around in their swivel chairs a few times, turn the lights off and tilt their heads to the left and sure enough, they can see it in there. Let me leave you with the words of that legendary Dem President who said, "Ask not what you can do for your country, but ask what your country can do for you". Yes that's how I heard it. Free fishing licenses for all!
