8 years ago Radical ISLAM was wiped out.

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;550930]To end Radical Nazism, we firebombed Dresden.....

to end Radical Imperialism in Japan, we firebombed Tokyo ONE NIGHT, killing over 100,000 civilians. That did nothing to convince RADICAL EVIL to surrender. After the firebombing, we NUKED Hiroshima..........they STILL refused to surrender. 3 days Later we NUKED Nagasaki.........

Germany has been a peaceful nation since........
Japan has been a peaceful nation since.......

It is TIME to unleash HELL on Radical Islam.

Later,

GEo[/QUOTE]

Geo, there ain't no single location we can Nike and get them all. This is a Vietnam type scenario, with bad guys mixed in with innocents. Time to fire up the drones with the facial recognition software and surgically start at the top of the Isis list and work our way down to the last radical working in a remote supply room. This is definitely special ops and black ops time to rock and roll.

[QUOTE=MrSplitshot;550907]Breaking News: Paris terrorist posed as a Syrian refugee and was in a Croatian refugee camp 30 days ago. Well, ain't that a shocker! Who didn't see this coming? I mean, really? We are so stupid. Let's bring some refugees to the U.S. as quick as we can...but don't worry...your government is vetting them to see if they are terrorists. I'm sure it's really difficult for an ISIS member to imbed and get through. All it takes is 1 to strap a bomb on and blow up a crowd of Americans, but that's none of my business.


There are around 1.6 Billion Muslims on Earth, or somewhere a bit shy of 25% of the world's population. Let's say 5% of them are "radicalized" by some standard definition of the term. (Some estimates are higher than that, based on Pew research surveys done in countries where they ask questions about how people feel about suicide bombings, etc...But, let's keep it conservative and say 5%.) Me and my calculator concludes that, yes, this means there are a grand majority of Muslims that are not a problem and don't bother anybody. They believe what they believe, which is different than me...but that's ok. I'm not some nut job that thinks everybody has to believe the same things that I do. We're cool. However, 5% of 1.6 Billion still leaves a hell of a lot of people on this planet that basically think I should die and would be happy to help that happen. Call me crazy, but I don't like people who think I should die. Neither should you. Islam may be about peace for the 95%, but it sure isn't for the 5% radicals. It's pretty hard to share a planet with people that want to kill you. For the morons that think "peace, love, and understanding" is going to change the way these 5% of 1.6 Billion people think about you...good luck with that. The world has a radical Muslim problem and peace will only come through superior firepower on this one. If the 95% of other Muslims that aren't radicalized gave a ****, they'd be up in arms too, helping us choke out their wayward brothers. We can sit around and wait for more tragedies like Paris just endured...we can wait until it happens here (again)...or we can set out to legitimately decimate the 5% of radicals wherever they exist right now...accepting the collateral damage that comes with it. If you think ISIS doesn't (1) want to do more of these attacks, and (2) want to do them on American soil...you're an idiot. For the sake of our way of life, radical Muslims that want us to die need to be eradicated. That means the full force and capabilities of the American military and her allies with a strategy that is no less than strict protection of our borders, strict intelligence to find those already in our population, and complete eradication of radical Islamic terrorists where they live...with adequate boots on the ground and rules of engagement. It also has to include taking out Assad in Syria, which means a potential showdown with Russia and Iran.


Seems pretty unlikely that diplomacy will fix this.


If we don't fix it and clear the abundance of radical Islamic evil, I worry about the world my daughter will grow up in.


I fear that WW3 could be somewhere on the horizon, sooner than later.[/QUOTE]

Ww3 won't last long, rockets red glare, sand turns to glass.

You know, I'll be the first to admit when I'm wrong...and I'll be the first to admit that reading about some things this week made me realize that I did not know the extent of how immigrant refugees are vetted before coming into this country. They are actually vetted pretty hard, by multiple agencies, before they ever step foot into the US. I automatically assumed our government was inept on it, but they aren't necessarily. It's a process that takes at least a year and a half. Syrians pose additional challenges, but it's not like we're just letting in people where we don't have the foggiest idea who they are. Foolproof? No. But it's not an open floodgate either.


I still think the 5% of radicalized Muslims need to be eradicated. I still think proactive military action from a coalition of countries is the way to do it. I still think that is critical. I still think the other 95% of Muslims should stand up and help.

But, I've softened a bit on the absolutely no refugees stance...as long as it's done legally and they are vetted. Seems like it would be much easier and faster for someone to get into the US illegally anyway...through a porous southern border, for instance. I'm sure they already have.

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;550891]Then we elected Obama..... simply refuses to call it Islamic Terrorism. It is quite simple..........if you want to destroy terrorism, you have to..[/QUOTE]

You can't be serious George! This is total BS or wishful thinking. Man what ever you are drinking I don't want any of that.

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;550904]After WWII, after destroying Germany and Japan with WAR, the United states stayed in Germany and Japan with MILITARY forces for 40 years.....

WE will never know if staying in IRAQ Militarily for 40 years would have lead to stability, because OBAMA ran on and was elected by the promise of getting the troops out.

Now, we will be sending Troops back to IRAQ and expanding into Syria.

Obama CAUSED this.

Later,

Geo[/QUOTE]

Japan surrendered because we dropped two atomic bombs on them and they thought we would continue to drop atomic bombs on them until they surrendered. And when they surrounded their culture of obeying their Supreme Leader helped to pacify them. Iraq and the people of the middle east have a much different culture. They didn't have a supreme leader and we didn't threaten them with the use of Atomic Weapons. Japan played by the same type of rules of war that most people did back during WWII. The Germans also surrendered after Hitler Committed Suicide and they also lived by certain rules of war. They didn't attack the US troops that were stationed in Germany for the last 70 years. Unlike the Arabs and Muslims in the Middle East that never played by the Western Rules of War. Remember when Iran took over our US Embassy in Tehran. They didn't play by our Western Rules of Diplomacy either.

There is no way we could have left US troops in Iraq and had the type of occupational peace that we have in Germany and Japan after WWII. These are apple and oranges and never even close to being the same situation.

George. Think or go back and study the history of the Crusades in the Middle East next time you try to compare that area of the world to Western European Countries.

And today we are not the only Country with Nuclear Weapons as we were at the end of WWII. That changed ever since the Russian got the Bomb and the Cold War has been going on ever since. And that war is getting hotter by the minute today. Russian ships are firing cruise missiles into Syria from the Caspian Sea in the last hour as well as bombing Western Syria with fighter Jets and artillery. BTW: that area of Syria is where the anti Syria fighters are located. The same ones that the USA is backing and who are trying to topple Assad in Syria. And the Russians are backing Assad. The threat of more wars with Russia is eminent today.

[QUOTE=Dobe Mejuwa;551009]Geo, there ain't no single location we can Nike and get them all. This is a Vietnam type scenario, with bad guys mixed in with innocents. Time to fire up the drones with the facial recognition software and surgically start at the top of the Isis list and work our way down to the last radical working in a remote supply room. This is definitely special ops and black ops time to rock and roll.[/QUOTE]

We need to figure out how to find the extremist and separate them from the General Population. These are the ones that are causing the trouble. And there are a lot of them and they are growing. I'll admit that. But I'm not sure that ever Muslim is an extremist or not. That is the hard part. How do you figure out who is going to stab you in the back and who's going to help you and be your friend? That's the hard and almost impossible part.

Germany during WWII had the same problem with the underground allies in France and the other Occupied Countries. The Germans didn't far very well with that task. All though and during WWII the Germans were harassed by the Alied Underground fighters.

And all the time that Bush had US soldiers in Iraq we had to contend with Iraqi underground fighters. And they were not Al Qaeda until after we got rid of Saddam. Saddam would not allow any Al Qaeda people in Iraq when he was the dictator of Iraq.