Second place is ?

[QUOTE=Tim_T;552093][URL]http://www.mercurynews.com/politics-government/ci_21545019/trick-question-who-had-higher-gas-prices-obama[/URL]

Sorry, forgot the link[/QUOTE] thanks for the link, I new the world demand kinda pushes the price up or down, but the link was a good read, I hadn't read one where it broke down the two partys terms, in equal months and compaired the price per gallon, in the real world, any President is just a puppet on a string, bought and payed for before they take office, the Billionaires tell the President what to do, or so it seams, I truly wish it wasn't so, but I think it is.

[QUOTE=waterdog101;552098]the Billionaires tell the President what to do, or so it seams, I truly wish it wasn't so, but I think it is.[/QUOTE]If he wins who would will tell net worth $4,000,000,000 Donald what to do?

[QUOTE=sweetwater;552101]If he wins who would will tell net worth $4,000,000,000 Donald what to do?[/QUOTE] well that is a very good question, where he didn't take money from the super pacs, he has a chance to do what he thinks is right, but and it is a big but, I can't see trump getting anything done, for one reason he is outside the Republican click, and the biggest reason, the senate and congress are bought and payed for by the Billionaires, so they won't pass anything the money guys tell them not to. so I think the question should be, instead of who will tell trump what to do, what will the Billionaires " super pacs " tell the senate and congress, to let Trump do. he may get a couple things done on his own , by useing his Executive power, that was allotted to him, from a section of the constitution. like Obama had to do.. .

[QUOTE=waterdog101;552066]that one wasn't on my list, but I hope your right, I think Bernie would be more for the folks, that are less than millionaires, now back to some things Obama did right.

Obama stopped America from sinking to the bottom, our economy was gone, some economist say it had rolled back 60 years equal to the 1940's ...

Obama put 10 million workers back to work, that had lost their jobs under the ouher guys leadership..
and has steadily added over 200,000 jobs a month for over 6 years in a row...

Obama has America producing enough gas and oil, that we are equal to Saudi Arabia...

Obama has America working on cleaner energy, and the world is following him, China spent double what america did on clean energy, china spent 80 Billion last year, they know clean energy is the future.

Obama has raised spending 300% sence he took office, to get homeless Veterans off the streets..

Obama held interest rates to 0% sence he took office, so people could refinance and keep ther homes..

Obama has gas under 2 bucks a gallon down from over 4 when he took office..

the list it to long to type it all, who ever the next President is, they sure do have some shoes to fill, and Hillary's feet don't look that big to me, and Trump well he would roll us back to the forties again..[/QUOTE]

You know........I looked over the list and most every one can be discounted.

* Economists are on the fence about TARP and the whole "saving" America from destruction. Some would say adding the TRILLIONS of dollars to the deficit will destroy us just the same....but hey, who's counting the 17 trillion he added.

* 10 million McDonald's jobs are not what I call jobs. You're FOOLING yourself, because you **** good and well know the numbers lie. There are millions and millions that cannot find jobs, and the Obamunists call you employed if you work 8 hours a week..........Yea, Funny math.

* Obama has done nothing to help production of AMERICAN products. That oil is mostly from private land. If that **** bag in the office would not have cancelled EVERY SINGLE LEASE in the Dakotas, ISIS "might" not exist. Remember, Bush signed the deals for those leases, and Obama, as his first executive order, cancelled them all.

* Cleaner energy at the cost of trillions........AND he picked winners and losers. Lets not forget the billions given to companies that went out of business. Clean energy is a joke..........He closed down clean coal which is a FANTASTICALLY cheap source.......

* 300% has not done much to help the vets. Sorry, but the spending he did helped everyone BUT the vets.....like SNAP, and extending unemployment by 36 months. Yea.......BULL ****.

* Obama held interests rates to 0%. Quantitative easing is ruining America. All he did was borrow against your kids and grand kids......but Democrats always do that......... While I like the interest rates right now, they are not good for America. Most everyone recognizes that you eventually must pay.........Everyone except for LIBERALS.

* The last full month Bush was in office, the gasoline average was 1.68.......pretty EASY to find that stat.

I could go on and on, but you know what, I'm really tired of arguing with IGNORANT people.

It is quite easy to find the truth...........

Later,

Geo

Originally Posted by [B]waterdog101[/B]
[I]that one wasn't on my list, but I hope your right, I think Bernie would be more for the folks, that are less than millionaires, now back to some things Obama did right.

Obama stopped America from sinking to the bottom, our economy was gone, some economist say it had rolled back 60 years equal to the 1940's ...

Obama put 10 million workers back to work, that had lost their jobs under the ouher guys leadership..
and has steadily added over 200,000 jobs a month for over 6 years in a row...

Obama has America producing enough gas and oil, that we are equal to Saudi Arabia...

Obama has America working on cleaner energy, and the world is following him, China spent double what america did on clean energy, china spent 80 Billion last year, they know clean energy is the future.

Obama has raised spending 300% sence he took office, to get homeless Veterans off the streets..

Obama held interest rates to 0% sence he took office, so people could refinance and keep ther homes..

Obama has gas under 2 bucks a gallon down from over 4 when he took office..

the list it to long to type it all, who ever the next President is, they sure do have some shoes to fill, and Hillary's feet don't look that big to me, and Trump well he would roll us back to the forties again..[/I]

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;552104]You know........I looked over the list and most every one can be discounted.

* 10 million McDonald's jobs are not what I call jobs. You're FOOLING yourself, because you **** good and well know the numbers lie..........Yea, Funny math.

McDonald’s and its franchises likely employ 300,000 people in the United States. McDonald’s does not provide an exact number, or separate its own workers from those of its franchises. ..

He closed down clean coal which is a FANTASTICALLY cheap source.......

he didn't close down coal, he supports us having clean air and water to breath and drink, so he supports clean energy, I've never heard of clean coal, and if it is cheap, how could natural gas cheaper prices, undermine the use of coal and hurt coal production.

* 300% has not done much to help the vets. Sorry, but the spending he did helped everyone BUT the vets.....like SNAP, and extending unemployment by 36 months. Yea.......BULL ****.

thanks to the 300% increase in spending on homeless vets that has occurred during President Obama's tenure as president. The result: homelessness amongst veterans has decreased by about a third since 2010.

* Obama held interests rates to 0%. Quantitative easing is ruining America. All he did was borrow against your kids and grand kids......but Democrats always do that......... While I like the interest rates right now, they are not good for America. Most everyone recognizes that you eventually must pay.........Everyone except for LIBERALS.

In early 2009, the Obama administration announced a program called Making Home Affordable. This program is expected to help nine million homeowners keep their homes and avoid foreclosure through refinancing and modified loans designed to lower monthly mortgage payments. you see this as borrowing against your grand kids, I see it as helping keep a roof over grand kids, mom and dads heads right now.

* The last full month Bush was in office, the gasoline average was 1.68.......pretty EASY to find that stat.
the last month was election time, the full year before he left office, 4.00.... easy to find stat..

I could go on and on, but you know what, I'm really tired of arguing with IGNORANT people.

don't argue my friend, discuss it with both smart and ignorant folk, and doing so you may show them the light, and may see it yourself..

It is quite easy to find the truth...........

I totaly agree, you and I don't see things the same but we both can see, and thats a plus..

[QUOTE=waterdog101;552102] like Obama had to do.[/QUOTE]
Had to do?? He doesn't have to skirt Congress. He should respect the authorities of the States, the Congress and the intent of our founding fathers but instead he's looking for loopholes in the law so he can cram his personal agendas down our throats. Obama has promised gun control by executive power too so I'm going to assume that he's going into the ghettos and get all the illegal and stolen guns right now...

Oh, he meant take away the legal rights of good citizens to buy guns.... Gotcha

[QUOTE=sweetwater;552107]Had to do?? He doesn't have to skirt Congress. He should respect the authorities of the States, the Congress and the intent of our founding fathers but instead he's looking for loopholes in the law so he can cram his personal agendas down our throats. Obama has promised gun control by executive power too so I'm going to assume that he's going into the ghettos and get all the illegal and stolen guns right now...

Oh, he meant take away the legal rights of good citizens to buy guns.... Gotcha[/QUOTE] I thought we were talking about Trump, and I made the statement, Trump would have to do like Obama and use his executive power to get anything done, without those around him wanting to help. it wasn't a had to do question?, it was a had to do statement, when Obama was first elected, our country was a mess, instead of washington trying to help fix the mess, their leader Mitch Mcconnell said his # one priority, was to make Obama a one term President, " which he failed at really bad " so thats why Obama used his executive power " you call it loopholes "to get something done, I have guns myself, my whole family have guns, we get together sometimes and target practice together, I have a daughter that can shoot as good as I can, and I'm for gun control, not taking peoples guns kind of control, but taking the fully auto assult weapons off the market and streets like Obama talks about doing, I'm going to assume he is no where near the ghettos, and assume he don't care how many pistols and hunting rifles a person owns, he is trying to control the assault weapons, and close the loopholes, where anyone can buy guns from a gun dealer without a background check. not take good citizens rights, just make sure a good citizen has a clean background, and hasn't been in and out of a mental institution before buying a gun.

There are more important things than gun rights.I've always been for open carry for everyone, regardless! Yes some folks need protection FROM the police. YES I'm on the government tit, but so are farmers oil companies utilities states and cities.And many private concerns. Its a big trough, and we all line up to get our chance at it.What we need to teach is responsibilities for our actions.WE are resposible for our actions, when you put your ass on the line, pay for it.

It quickly comes to guns because the right to bear arms is very important to a lot of folks. It is not a coincidence that the second amendment was second only the First Amendment which guaranteed freedom of religion, free speech, free press, freedom to assemble and the right to complain about the government. Of course that amendment has already taken a good beating in the past seven years.

We don't want the first amendment anymore. When you need a permit to gather together for a cause, you lost it.How about freedom FROM religion? We gave that up also.Free Press? HAH when three or four individuals own most of the press, we hear what they want us to hear. And it seems we love our loss of privacy, just look at the amount of security cameras we tolerate.Our communications are monitored,and a lot of our private information is for sale by other interested parties.