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i thought we got an early warning so no one would get hurt?
was that from our early warning systems or from someone in iran?
from the latest news reports, sounds like all we need to do is drop a few weapons inside iran and let their people solve the problem.
moveon, i don't know how you can be so right on some things and so wrong on others.
[/QUOTE] moveon, i don't know how you can be so right on some things and so wrong on others.[/QUOTE]
LOL :)
That's life I guess.
I think to answer your question. The Iranian's gave the Iraqis a heads up. We also detected the launching of the Iranian Missiles using our overhead Satellites. Our guys sheltlered in those old concrete bunkers for hours. They were in the shelters 4 hours before the first missiles rained down on that airbase. It's a good thing that they were not sleeping in those barracks or there would have been some American deaths for sure. The pictures of the barracks that were hit showed the destruction. Just try to image the bloodshed that would have occurred if our men were sleeping in this unprotected barracks. Tens and tin roofs won't protect anyone from a 1000 lb. warhead exploding on the tinn roof.
I'm not sure why Iran gave the Iraqi's any warning about the attack.
BTW. The Ballistic Missile attacks occurred in waves. They didn't fire all those missiles at one time. They fired a few then waited a while adn fired a few more. Then repeated. So there were multiple waves or ballistic missiles fired at those two air bases.
What I can't figure out is why the USA didn't move some Patriot Missile batteries into the airbase to try to shoot down the Iranian Ballistic missiles before they could do any damage to the airbase. That does not make much sense. Maybe we don't have enough Patriot Missile batteries to go around. But you would think that the Largest Airbase in Iraq housing US men and women would be a priority to protect with Patriot Missile batteries.
[QUOTE=dragmerc;576783]they're saying a war is the only way to avoid a global financial meltdown.
anybody buying gold?[/QUOTE]
Gold has been a HORRIBLE bet for 10 years.......If you bought it 20 years ago maybe, but if you bought it lately you LOST money.
[QUOTE=Moveon;576829]Do you wish to get rid of the US Navy, US Army, US Coast Guard, US Airforce, US Pot office, US Civil Serice? All of these are social programs that benifit everyone in the USA. Should we privatize all this so we can be pure capitalizm? Should those with the most property and money be the ones that pay the most to support the US Military and post office. Should those with the most need for road and rail be the ones that pay the most to build our roads? after all they get the most out of having all the highways they need to ship their products to markes in China. . If not then shut up about us being a socialist country. You don't even know the difference betweet socialism and dictatorships. All the counties that you call socialist are actually dictators. Rusisan is not a socialist country, it's run by a dictator undter the guise of having free election.
The USA is a republic and we use social programs all the time here. The US Post office is a good example. Social Security and Medicare are two more good examples of socialist programs that benefit millions of good american.
Now that should take care of your off-topic BS.
Try to keep on topic little boy.. This is the thread that I started and you are welcome to comment on the topic of the war with Iran.
But you failed to even make a valid comment on the thread topic. That makes you nothing more than a troll.[/QUOTE]
Take it easy with the name calling ********......that is why everyone left this site to begin with.
Make your point, argue your point and then STFU.
With regards to social programs? The Military is outlined DIRECTLY in the constitution as a funded entity, required by our Constitutional Republic..............so I don't call that a social program.
[QUOTE=GeoFisher;576859]Take it easy with the name calling ********......that is why everyone left this site to begin with.
Make your point, argue your point and then STFU.
With regards to social programs? The Military is outlined DIRECTLY in the constitution as a funded entity, required by our Constitutional Republic..............so I don't call that a social program.[/QUOTE]
So you are saying that the founding fathers said it was OK to have a socialist military and even put that into our constitution? Because that is just what you just said. So you see when you consider that we have not privatized the military then it must be a social program like the others. One that we have to have. So not all things about socialism is bad. What you don't like is Communism or dictatorships. Don't confuse those with socialism which we use here in the USA all the time.
Tell me what you think socialism means? Do you consider social security as socialism? What about the US Postal Service? What about the bus service run by the city?
When we all pay taxes to support a Government Program like the Postal Service then that to me is a social program. As I said the military is a social program that we all help to pay for.
[QUOTE=Moveon;576881]So you are saying that the founding fathers said it was OK to have a socialist military and even put that into our constitution? Because that is just what you just said. So you see when you consider that we have not privatized the military then it must be a social program like the others. One that we have to have. So not all things about socialism is bad. What you don't like is Communism or dictatorships. Don't confuse those with socialism which we use here in the USA all the time.
Tell me what you think socialism means? Do you consider social security as socialism? What about the US Postal Service? What about the bus service run by the city?
When we all pay taxes to support a Government Program like the Postal Service then that to me is a social program. As I said the military is a social program that we all help to pay for.[/QUOTE]
Come on man you know the difference between the crap the Democrat potus hopefuls are peddling and the ones you mentioned. Are you just wanting to argue points that we all understand already? You know very well what myself, most people and possibly yourself is against when it comes to Bernie and AOC's vision of America is.
[QUOTE=Moveon;576809]Not sure where you are getting your news about this global financial meltdown. Got any links?
Trump failed to respond to Iran's direct Ballistic Missile attack on our USA Air base in Iraq. The missiles came from inside Iran and was not fired by the Iranian Proxi forces.
Trump talks big but he's carrying a tiny stick.[/QUOTE]
Really? That's how you interpreted that? He caught so much flack for ordering the bombing of the general and the House Dems went nuts over that. They have been trying to hogtie him on any and everything. So what should he have done?
[QUOTE=Moveon;576816]I'm more concerned with Iran than who's the US President. The guys in the field can get killed no matter who's the US President if Iran continues to attack the US interests in the middle east. In times of war there are no your side or my side. There is only one side and that's the American side.
And all you can think about is US politics. When we go to war with a foreign country we are all Americans, not Dem or Repugs.
I'm sick of the Dems voting to restrict any President like they did yesterday. Those war powers resolutions are not needed when we are about to fight Iran.
We should have taken Iran outback in 1979 or 1980. Neither Carter or Reagan did what they should have done. Now Iran has ballistic missiles and are working hard on developing a nuclear war head that they can send though the air to god only knows where. Trump is all talk and no actions which is what I thought he would do. He's too afraid to start a needed war with Iran and take Iran out of the picture in the Middle East once and for all.[/QUOTE]
So Obama gets a pass huh? He handled Iran perfectly? Remember all the talk from the democrats about showing love to Iran? They roasted McCain (I didn't like him) for saying bomb bomb bomb Iran. The democrats in power have opposed just about everything mentioned by any republican when it comes to Iran.
Some Democrats probably cried over the killing of that general. I know many talking heads in the media whined about it.
[QUOTE=DJD;576962]So Obama gets a pass huh? He handled Iran perfectly? Remember all the talk from the democrats about showing love to Iran? They roasted McCain (I didn't like him) for saying bomb bomb bomb Iran. The democrats in power have opposed just about everything mentioned by any republican when it comes to Iran.
Some Democrats probably cried over the killing of that general. I know many talking heads in the media whined about it.[/QUOTE]
Wah wah Wah. Obama blah blah blah Obama blah blah blah. All you do it complain about Obama. Get over it, Obama is gone and Trump was in charge when 50 of our service members suffered TRAMATIC BRAIN INJURY in the Iranian Ballistic Missile Attack on our troops in Iraq. Trump takes and fails to act or protect our troops over in Iraq. He allows Iran to damage our airfield and equipment and harm 50 of our service members and then does nothing about it. Cadet Bone Spurs was a Draft Dodger and is nothing more than a Big mouth with no actions.
[QUOTE=Moveon;576969]Wah wah Wah. Obama blah blah blah Obama blah blah blah. All you do it complain about Obama. Get over it, Obama is gone and Trump was in charge when 50 of our service members suffered TRAMATIC BRAIN INJURY in the Iranian Ballistic Missile Attack on our troops in Iraq. Trump takes and fails to act or protect our troops over in Iraq. He allows Iran to damage our airfield and equipment and harm 50 of our service members and then does nothing about it. Cadet Bone Spurs was a Draft Dodger and is nothing more than a Big mouth with no actions.[/QUOTE]
It's about time! Now Iraq has voted to oust the US Troops from Iraq. But Trump is threatening sanctions on Iraq if they kick us out. We are so stupid. We send our young men and women to Iraq to fight a war and get rid of Saddam and now the Iranian's are running Iraq. Shite. Saddam was Sunni.
So we had over 50 US service members injured by the Iranian Ballistic Missile Attack on Al Sada Air base in Iraq. Now the Head of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff is talking about putting Patriot Missile Batteries in Iraq to protect our troops. I personally think that is a good idea. I was for kicking Iraq out of Kuwait. I was not for the invasion of Iraq to take out Saddam for the very reason we find ourseves in now. Iran has taken over Iraq. Most of the people in Iraq are Shite Muslims and that is what Iran is. Saddam was Sunni Muslim. ISIS is Sunni Muslim. Iran and Iraq fought a war for over ten years which ended in a stalemate. Now Iran virtually controls Iraq. What good did it do to take out Iraq and Saddam an the Sunni's who controlled Iraq?
We were enemies of Iran since they invaded our embassy in Iran and took our diplomats hostage for over a year. We stil have to deal with Iran in the middle east. Israel is in danger of attack by Iran. So are others like Saudi Arabia, and others in and around the Persian Gulf. Russia and China are siding with Iran. Where do you think that Iran got the technology to build those Ballistic Missiles?
Since we spent so much time and money and blood invading Iraq we better consolidate our win there. While I didn't think we should have gone there in the first place I now think that we should stay there in order to keep Iran under control. That didn't work out too well with the Ballistic Missile Attack on our men at that airbase in Iraq. Putting Patriot Missiles in Iraq may help us protect our forces there. I still wonder why we didn't attack those ballistic missile launchers and take them out. Some one had to back down or else we would probably be at war with Iran right now. A war that I hope we could win.
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