DH,
Amen, Amen and Amen! My thoughts through and through...could not have said it better, great job.
Don
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DH,
Amen, Amen and Amen! My thoughts through and through...could not have said it better, great job.
Don
[QUOTE=DJD;315525]DH,
Amen, Amen and Amen! My thoughts through and through...could not have said it better, great job.
Don[/QUOTE]
Jim (DH), if you ever need a brother in the foxhole with ya man, you can dang sure count on me. You too Don, you guys come from the same thread as me and I like it. Dang it boys that post fired me up, Get-R-Done, Go Old School, Yeeaaaaaa buddy. Sorry I said I was done but dang it that post got my blood to moving.
[QUOTE=Col Forbin;315473]Yes - no secret, I will vote dem. The tax cuts never helped me out much. I guess teachers are not rich enough for the republican tax plan to really benefit. As a realist I see that we can't afford to keep the tax cuts and support a war at the same time - it just doesn't make sense to me. These expenditures are having a tremendous negative affect on all aspects of our country. Bush just released his fiscal proposal/budget plan for next year, and in order to support all of our expenditures (Especially War and Tax breaks) the national education budget will be losing 3.9 BILLION dollars in federal funding. I guess some of those kids will get left behind. I have said this before, we all vote on the issues that are most important to us individually, and I have yet to hear a Republican with an acceptable plan for economic restoration and more importantly (to me) educational improvement - you can't really have one without the other.
I love money, But a few hundred dollars more on a tax rebate does not persuade me either way.[/QUOTE]
We proved it under Reagan and Bush when we cut taxes we have more money coming into the coffers than when we raise taxes. With everything we have been faced with we have had one of the greatest economies and lowest unemployment rates ever because tax cuts spur job growth!!!! I do agree with you education is one of the most important if not the most important program we have however most of the education is left to the state and Illinois has poured large increases into our education for several years but it has not improved our schools. We can not just throw money at the problem we need to improve our system. We are lowering our standards of the entire class so not to affect a student’s self esteem. We can not flunk them, drop them from a team, or give them grades that will hurt their self esteem. We are not preparing them for the real world and money is not the answer.
Jim (DH), if you ever need a brother in the foxhole with ya man, you can dang sure count on me. You too Don, you guys come from the same thread as me and I like it. Dang it boys that post fired me up, Get-R-Done, Go Old School, Yeeaaaaaa buddy. Sorry I said I was done but dang it that post got my blood to moving.
Ditto...right back at ya Mark. I know it's a fishing site but it's great to get an opinion from our fellow Brothers in Arms! One day we will fish together heck, maybe with BigGw, Splitshot or Billy....we all cross paths now and then around here. Have a good one.
[QUOTE=mhall;315535]Jim (DH), if you ever need a brother in the foxhole with ya man, you can dang sure count on me. You too Don, you guys come from the same thread as me and I like it. Dang it boys that post fired me up, Get-R-Done, Go Old School, Yeeaaaaaa buddy. Sorry I said I was done but dang it that post got my blood to moving.[/QUOTE]
Is there room for 3 in that Fox Hole? McCain for 08 all the way.......
[QUOTE=BigPoppy;315487]Richy be careful about how you talk on line we are still under close eyes with the War on Terrorism Act where warrants are not needed to electronicly spy on the American public.
YEAH, REALLY! LOL!
Romney is a very forward thinking man he has laid the perfect ground work for the next election, dropping out as a strong second so early in the game, or could there be a dream team sprouting up in the shadows McCain Romney, that could sway alot of votes . Think about it.[/QUOTE]
I CAN'T EVER SEE THAT HAPPENING. MCCAIN AND ROMNEY HAVE TOO MUCH BAD BLOOD! HOWEVER...ROMNEY WOULD GIVE MCCAIN HIS ONLY CHANCE TO WIN THE DEMS. WITH CONSERVATIVES (ROMNEY) AND MODERATES/INDEPENDENTS (MCCAIN), IT COULD = A WIN!? STILL, I'M NOT HOLDING MY BREATH! HAGD!
[QUOTE=apb;315516]The election is still 8 months away, so nothing is decided. The last eight years have been scary. Borders are already open, terrorists are already in the ME. Tyrants already have nuclear capabilities, but we went after one that MIGHT have had WMD. No one is ending religious freedoms. You are still free to worship how, what, and when you want.
ALRIGHT...I'LL RE-FRASE...WHEN THE DEMS WIN THEY'LL STOP ALL BORDER CONTROL ALLOWING FLOODS OF ILLEGALS INTO OUR COUNTRY THAT WANT TO GET IN ON THE "AMNISTY" PLAN. TERRORIST ARE IN THE M.EAST....RUNNING AND HIDING FROM U.S AND IRAQI FORCES. WHEN THE DEMS WIN... THE TERRORIST WILL BE RUNNING THE GOVERNMENTS. TYRANTS ARE TRYING TO DEVELOP NUCLEAR WEAPONS, AND WHEN THE DEMS WIN...THERE WILL BE NO SANCTIONS OR MILITARY LEFT TO STOP THEM. RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS ARE BEING ATTACKED CONSTANTLY IN THE U.S....THE RIGHTS OF MINORITIES OVERSHADOW THE NEARLY 90% OF AMERICANS THAT ARE CHRISTIANS....WE MAY BE ABLE TO WORSHIP "WHAT" AND "WHERE" WE WANT, BUT NOT "HOW" AND "WHEN" WE WANT....AT LEAST NOT IN PUBLIC.
"Degrigation Of The Family". I'm confused on this one. Guess it has to do with the whole "family values" deal that crops up every four years. Sorry, but family values start at home, with the family. As much as the gov't screws things up, there is no way that I would want them deciding what "values" my family should have. They are politicians after all. You really think that many of them have any values? I wouldn't let most of them train my dog.
Andrew[/QUOTE]
LET ME RE-FRASE AGAIN...DEGRIGATION OF THE CONCEPT OF MARRIAGE. CHRISTIANS BELIEVE THAT MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMEN....DEMS BELIEVE THAT MARRIAGE CAN BE BETWEEN ANYTHING....MAN/MAN...WOMAN/WOMAN...MAN/SHEEP? I PERSONALLY HAVE A LITTLE MORE RESPECT AND HONOR FOR THE HOLY PRINCIPLE OF MARRIAGE. I KNOW MY CHILDREN WILL GROW IN A FAMILY OF VALUES AND RELIGION...HOWEVER, THE CHILDREN ADOPTED BY A GAY MARRIED COUPLE ARE THE ONES I WORRY ABOUT. TRY EXPLAINING THAT ONE TO A KID?! SCARY!
-RICH
Except for 8 years, between 1980 and today, there has been a republican in the white house. If the republicans are so "family values", how come the "continued degredation". Thats what I'm getting at. Family values is just a catch phrase used to sucker people into voting for one canidate or another. All of us agree that family is important. Like I said above, family values starts at home, with the family. The last thing you need is government legislating what YOUR family values will be.
btw, seems to me that Romney was pretty liberal when he was governor of MA. Why the sudden change? Why do you feel that he is a true conservative?
Andrew
[QUOTE=mhall;315491]I got spanked the last time I got in one of these but I just can't stand it. I thought for awhile McCain was alright now I'm not so sure. Just because he isn't as far to the right as Rush Limbaugh doesn't make him a bad guy. I am very conservative to a fault sometimes but can't help it. All that being said after listening and trying to be informed I'm not sure McCain is the right man for the job. Huckabee is not all bad but I'm still out to ponder about him too. But I tell you this if that Muslim gets the office this country is in trouble. Like Jim said say out loud three times President Obama, OMG, call me a backwood uneducated redneck hillbilly if you want I just can't bring myself to do it. Besides all the actors and T.V. personalities want him president including Oprah. LIBERAL. LIBERAL. LIBERAL. Steve Beshear wasn't going to tax and spend and everybody was going to get along and sing campfire songs together, REMEMBER??? What happened????? I'd vote for Satan before I'd vote for Billery, or God help us Barrack HUSSEIN Obama, OMG, LOL.[/QUOTE]
VERY WELL PUT! PRESIDENT HUSSEIN OBAMA??????? SOUNDLS LIKE A MIDDLE EASTERN TYRANT!
[QUOTE=Col Forbin;315509]First of all Obama is not Muslim - wouldn't care if he was, but he is not.
I am confused. Rich D. talks about the Dem's bringing about "an end to Religious freedoms." Where it seems that Republicans are all about religious freedoms, as long as it involves the christian way. Or were you just talking about the freedom to impose the christian way on the rest of the world.
Just because I may be a Christian, I don't think everyone else in the world should be. And I definitely would not think less of someone that chose to follow a different path than me.[/QUOTE]
KEVIN-
HERE WE GO AGAIN! LOL! I NEVER SAID THAT CHRISTIAN SHOULD FORCE THEIR RELIGION UPON OTHERS...I SAID THAT DUE TO MINORITY RELIGIONS IN THE U.S. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PRACTICE OUR RELIGION TO IT'S FULLEST DUE TO BEING "EQUAL" AND "JUST" TO OTHER MINORITY RELIGIONS. EVERYONE HAS THEIR RIGHT TO RELIGIOUS FREEDOM...YOU JUST CAN'T MENTION "GOD" OR "CHRIST" WITHOUT THE ACLU GOING CRAZY! I KNOW WE ARE FREE TO WORSHIP HOW WE WANT, BECAUSE I DO IT EVERY SUNDAY, I JUST FEEL THERE'S A BATTLE GOING ON TODAY. A BATTLE BETWEEN CHRISTIANS (90%) WANTING GOD INVOLVED IN THE DIRECTION OF OUR COUNTRY (LIKE OUR FOUNDING FATHERS DID) AND OTHERS (10%) WHO WANT TO REMOVE ALL EVEDENCE OF A "GOD" FROM OUR COUNTRY. FEEL FREE TO WORSHIP HOW YOU WANT, JUST DON'T TELL MY CHILDREN THEY CAN'T SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGENCE BECAUSE IT SAYS "UNDER GOD". GIVE IT A WHILE....IT'LL GET WORSE.
HEY...WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GO FISHING!? I'VE GOT THE HOT BABES....YOU BRINGING THE BEER!? HAGD!
[QUOTE=mhall;315520]You don't know that he's not one anymore than I know he is one now do ya?????? Nobody really knows what's in another persons heart or mind only what we've been told. You say tomato, I say tamato, we are both entitled to believe what we want. All I know is when he speaks my head hurts. He's more full of it then the stuffing my Mom makes on Thanksgiving, Godbless her, LOL. I'm done and will say no more, this whole thread is heading for deleteville, lol.[/QUOTE]
IT MUST BE ME TYPING IN CAPITALS (that's considered yelling, ya know).
MY MOM MAKES A PRETTY DARN GOOD STUFFING AS WELL....AND YES, I AM FULL OF IT...EVERY THANKSGIVING. HAGD
Dh-
Excellent Post! Hit The Nail On The Head!