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What an impressive performance! If you look at the aerial shot, it's just amazing to watch. Once he starts his move, it's like he's in another gear. He went by that field like a freight train going by a hobo! Not only is it a really cool story, but this is a legitimate Triple Crown contender!
Sarah Jessica must have scratched pre-race I didn't see her in the results..........
Lock this one up - Mine That Bird will be favored in the Preakness................
[QUOTE=psprowler;366475]
Lock this one up - Mine That Bird will be favored in the Preakness................[/QUOTE]
If he runs, I saw something on the ESPN ticker that said he may not run in the Preakness. Not sure why, javen't seen the actual story.
[QUOTE=Tim_T;366486]If he runs, I saw something on the ESPN ticker that said he may not run in the Preakness. Not sure why, javen't seen the actual story.[/QUOTE]
Just would seem odd that a horse would go from 50-1 to favorite, but the Derby winner always seems to be the favorite going into the next leg.
[QUOTE=psprowler;366495]Just would seem odd that a horse would go from 50-1 to favorite, but the Derby winner always seems to be the favorite going into the next leg.[/QUOTE]
I agree and was shocked to hear they are leaning heavily against running him in the Preakness. I don't get it?????
Listen, I am not an expert on this BUT consider what they have to lose by running the Preakness. They SHOCKED EVERYONE at the Derby and the horses value went through the roof (I am assuming at least), but if they run the Preakness and it DOES perform like the 50-1 it went off at the Derby won't they lose a TON of value??? I wouldn't run this horse again either if I were them. I would ride the fame, cash in on the value which I believe is generally (I don't know the proper term here but) stud fees. And let the horse ride (pun intended) off into the sunset rather than risk the "bird in hand" they have right now as the Derby winner.
You also must consider the fact that some of the REAL Derby Favorites will be back for the next leg and that could really cause some problems for the horse. I just don't see any upside to racing him again against the field that will be there and risk a bad showing, BUT that is me and I am pretty conservative when it comes to talking about 7, or 8, figure paydays....LOL
Rob
If that horse wants the triple crown that horse can get it. He is a good horse, not the best lookng , the most expensive, but that horse has heart and fire. That was one one the best derby's I have seen in a long time, the whole story was great. Great jockey,unknown trainer, and a horse with teh heart to win.:)
[QUOTE=Bobby Headrick;366553]If that horse wants the triple crown that horse can get it. He is a good horse, not the best lookng , the most expensive, but that horse has heart and fire. That was one one the best derby's I have seen in a long time, the whole story was great. Great jockey,unknown trainer, and a horse with teh heart to win.:)[/QUOTE]
I agree Bobby, I love it when the underdogs have their day. You just gotta love Borel.
There is no way that horse can win the triple crown. What happened at the Derby is beyond me. How can a horse that has only one other Grade 1 Stakes race and finished dead last in it...win the Kentucky Derby? The horse didn't even finish in the money in his last race before the derby, a non-stakes race in New Mexico with little talent in it...How do you then win the Kentucky Derby in your next race? How does a horse like that even get in the Derby?
An underdog story for the ages...sure. A triple crown winning champion story?...No way.
You have to remember these are three-year-olds, just coming into themselves. In fact, Mine That Bird was foaled on May 10th, so he's not even really three years old yet. Three-year-olds are still maturing, and just like teenagers, their bodies are changing rapidly. So throw out everything he's done before, including being Canada's two-year-old champion, which is basically what got him into the Derby. Any three-year-old who can dominate the Derby field with a late turn of foot like he showed, is a legitimate Triple Crown contender.
The thing I'm liking best of all is they've quit using some of the drugs on the horses...I think in times past they said they only used them mildly but now they're not giving the horses anything? Is this true or not? Seems to me once man starts trying to enhance a horses ability or stamina by artificial means that it's just messing everything up...on down to the foals, etc...Just bring a horse in, train him, run him, excersize him, give him the workouts he needs, proper diet, care, etc...either he's a true athlete or he's not, quit trying to make him something he's not...I guess this makes me a naturalist or a tree huggin' son of a gun but so be it.
[QUOTE=Chubminnow;367266]The thing I'm liking best of all is they've quit using some of the drugs on the horses...I think in times past they said they only used them mildly but now they're not giving the horses anything? Is this true or not?[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, no, not really. There may have been some improvements lately, especially after the death of Eight Belles, but there is still a long way to go. Horses are still racing on at least some medication every day. Not all horses, but some certainly are. A prime example of this is Lasix. Back in the 60's and before, horses who bled visibly from the nose after a race or a workout were deemed inferior, and most would never make it to the breeding shed. Then, people discovered that horses who were given the diuretic Lasix before a race didn't bleed as much, if at all. Nowadays, EVERY STATE allows horses to race on Lasix. In some jurisdictions, horses have to have been seen to have bled visibly after a race or workout, in others they can race on Lasix even if the bleeding was only detectible with an endoscope, and in others it's totally up to the trainer. And this is one of the biggest problems with horseracing today - there is no central governing body making the rules. Each state makes their own, and they vary widely, not only in regards to Lasix, but also the NSAID phenylbutazone, aka "Bute," and others.
[QUOTE=Chubminnow;367266]Seems to me once man starts trying to enhance a horses ability or stamina by artificial means that it's just messing everything up...on down to the foals, etc...Just bring a horse in, train him, run him, excersize him, give him the workouts he needs, proper diet, care, etc...either he's a true athlete or he's not, quit trying to make him something he's not...I guess this makes me a naturalist or a tree huggin' son of a gun but so be it.[/QUOTE]
What that makes you is a wise person, and potentially a good horseman. Unfortunately, in this day and age, being a good horseman is not necessarily a job requirement to be a successful racehorse trainer.