Fort Hood Massacre

I've just read several news stories about Hasan and his beliefs, as well as the Muslim response here in the U.S..

What concerned me the most is that his commanding officers at the military university where he got his master's degree felt they could not file an official complaint against him because they felt it would be seen as being "anti-muslim". And, that is what needs to be taken to heart. We, as a soceity, have got to quit saying every complaint is issued as a prejudice toward a person's ethnicity or religous beliefs. Sometimes, most times, complaints are just that, complaints about the individual.

Also, a co-founder of an Islamic group in Killeen Tx, and also a military man, if I read it correctly, said Hasan was having trouble with it being a fight against other Muslims. He told Hasan that Muslims had been fighting one another forever, but it did not seem to matter.

Remember, Catholics, Baptists, and other religous organizations have had people commit heinous crimes. As I recall from my history classes, Chritanity as a whole was often very brutal towards those they sought to convert. Remember the Crusades? Well, remember about learning about the Crusades?

One other thing that puzzeled me was that several stories said that Hasan was spreading anti-American sentiment via the internet, but an Army release (released anomously as the person was not authorized to speak about the issue) said that a study of Hasan's computer use had not shown any concerns, or something to that affect. How can there be so much conflicting information? That is a rhetorical question.

Tight lines,

HDF

[QUOTE=kyfanatic;388829]I'm tired of Politically Correct and bowing down to uncivilized heathens,I'm tired of the loss in this country of plain common sense and the foundation that this country was built on,which wasn't shunning the Christian God and allowing Allah free reign.[/QUOTE]

Actually, this country was founded on the principle of religous freedom. The Church of England, a christian church, was what all people were required to be a part of. That is why most colonists came to the "new world", so they could pray the way they wanted, and be part of the church they chose, not what the government chose for them.

hdf

Just had another thought...

Maybe we could employe the same strategy that was employeed in the past. Forgive my ignorance about this, but I think it was McCarthy?? It was the principle where those who looked different from the majority, in this particular case it was orientals, they were "imprisoned" just because of their ancestory. It sounds, from some of the remarks, that many would embrace that same idea again?

Fortunately, I am white, male, and have a German name, guess I am safe for now.

I am afraid I have to clarify this... all that above is sarcasim. We can not pre-judge anyone based upon their name, color, ancestry, or religion. It is just not right.

HDF

[QUOTE=HiDefFisherman;388853]Just had another thought...

Maybe we could employe the same strategy that was employeed in the past. Forgive my ignorance about this, but I think it was McCarthy?? It was the principle where those who looked different from the majority, in this particular case it was orientals, they were "imprisoned" just because of their ancestory. It sounds, from some of the remarks, that many would embrace that same idea again?

Fortunately, I am white, male, and have a German name, guess I am safe for now.

I am afraid I have to clarify this... all that above is sarcasim. We can not pre-judge anyone based upon their name, color, ancestry, or religion. It is just not right.

HDF[/QUOTE]

I think we can bend the rules a little. I wonder at what point we be allowed to profile these radicals? People want to point out the problems with it but what about the problems without doing it?? It's gotta change.

Funny that I never hear about Christians,Buddists,Atheists,Hindus,Scientologists,or any other religion suicide bombing innocents except for the extremely rare psycho.

I don't care if your white,purple,or have a yellow streak up your back,allowing our soldiers and others to regularly die in the name of being politically correct is about as assanine as you can get.

[QUOTE=HiDefFisherman;388851]I've just read several news stories about Hasan and his beliefs, as well as the Muslim response here in the U.S..

What concerned me the most is that his commanding officers at the military university where he got his master's degree felt they could not file an official complaint against him because they felt it would be seen as being "anti-muslim". And, that is what needs to be taken to heart. We, as a soceity, have got to quit saying every complaint is issued as a prejudice toward a person's ethnicity or religous beliefs. Sometimes, most times, complaints are just that, complaints about the individual.

Also, a co-founder of an Islamic group in Killeen Tx, and also a military man, if I read it correctly, said Hasan was having trouble with it being a fight against other Muslims. He told Hasan that Muslims had been fighting one another forever, but it did not seem to matter.

Remember, Catholics, Baptists, and other religous organizations have had people commit heinous crimes. As I recall from my history classes, Chritanity as a whole was often very brutal towards those they sought to convert. Remember the Crusades? Well, remember about learning about the Crusades?

One other thing that puzzeled me was that several stories said that Hasan was spreading anti-American sentiment via the internet, but an Army release (released anomously as the person was not authorized to speak about the issue) said that a study of Hasan's computer use had not shown any concerns, or something to that affect. How can there be so much conflicting information? That is a rhetorical question.

Tight lines,

HDF[/QUOTE]

I'm with you on the different stories that are being reported. My honest opinion is that the newspapers, magazines, and TV news channels are all embellishing their reports in order to garner the most publicity. The more they sensationalize the more confusing the news becomes. I doubt that we will be able to read some of Hasan's postings because they were made on Islamic websites in Palestine, Lebanon, and Iran. I can't even tell you whether that much is correct or not because I read it an online newspaper.

Here are a couple of web sites that give the Muslim's opinion on Nidal Malik Hasan and on Muslim infiltration of the US Military.

[url]http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=115325[/url]

[url]http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=115218[/url]

[QUOTE=bassin_bug;388877]Here are a couple of web sites that give the Muslim's opinion on Nidal Malik Hasan and on Muslim infiltration of the US Military.

[url]http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=115325[/url]

[url]http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=115218[/url][/QUOTE]

Good post, good to see all aspects of a situation. I just bear in mind there were weirdos out there that thought Charlie Manson was doing a good thing too. Again, good to be reminded we as Americans gotta to watch more than just the guy with the gun. The folks with voice are potentially dangerous too.

[QUOTE=HiDefFisherman;388853] We can not pre-judge anyone based upon their name, color, ancestry, or religion. It is just not right.

HDF[/QUOTE]

:) Okay, so when a guy wearing a pink suit, with one sneaker, and funky looking hair gives you politican advise...........you'll listen right...............:eek:

[QUOTE=DJD;388868]I think we can bend the rules a little. I wonder at what point we be allowed to profile these radicals? People want to point out the problems with it but what about the problems without doing it?? It's gotta change.[/QUOTE]

Hey instead of sicking the feds on them, lets just turn a blind eye when either the Hell's Angels or the KKK decides to take offense to what they are saying.

With any luck, one radical group will remove another, no govt funds required.

[QUOTE=HURRICANEBOB;388885]:) Okay, so when a guy wearing a pink suit, with one sneaker, and funky looking hair gives you politican advise...........you'll listen right...............:eek:[/QUOTE]

Depends on what he has to say.

[QUOTE=HURRICANEBOB;388885]:) Okay, so when a guy wearing a pink suit, with one sneaker, and funky looking hair gives you politican advise...........you'll listen right...............:eek:[/QUOTE]

Hey watch it now....making fun of Barry will get you in trouble,:p