Cumberland River Shock results are SAD !!!

im in southern ohio/eastern kentucky area. my family has 48 acres and a cabin. it is starting to be overrun by coyotes.

Thanks. Send the spread sheets to [email][email protected][/email]
In the subject line put -- Cumberland river shock reports

I'll make them into pdf's and post them in this thread.
Peter

Those results sound about right to me. I for one will be extremely happy when the repairs on the dam are completed. Rocky, did you get the results from Dave Dreves?

Don't know if anyone has noticed,but over the past few years I've noticed a dramatic increase of the number of people fishing on the cr. In one day I saw boats from Ga.,N.C.,Ind.,Tenn.,Ark.,S.C.,Fla.,and as far away as Texas. Fishing pressure has increased along with the waters steady flows. My hours on the river have increased because of the flow scheduale. No doubt the warmer water had an effect. The catch and release has to be more stressful on the fish with the warmer water. Longer days on the river and more people fishing have taken its toll I agree, you have to work harder and hold your mouth just right. I still manage to land on avg. 20 to 30, I just think the big boys 20+ are alot smarter! Change your stratagey and cover more water. Works for me.

[QUOTE=coombro;393879]Don't know if anyone has noticed,but over the past few years I've noticed a dramatic increase of the number of people fishing on the cr. In one day I saw boats from Ga.,N.C.,Ind.,Tenn.,Ark.,S.C.,Fla.,and as far away as Texas. Fishing pressure has increased along with the waters steady flows. My hours on the river have increased because of the flow scheduale. No doubt the warmer water had an effect. The catch and release has to be more stressful on the fish with the warmer water. Longer days on the river and more people fishing have taken its toll I agree, you have to work harder and hold your mouth just right. I still manage to land on avg. 20 to 30, I just think the big boys 20+ are alot smarter! Change your stratagey and cover more water. Works for me.[/QUOTE]


Have you been telling people bout our fishin hole???
No really, There is a lot of boats in the campground
there most of the time!

I was staying at the motel in Burkesville for work last summer. And there was probably a dozen boats staying there from Ga. It Was a FF club, And I am sure they practiced good C&R.

A old local fisherman told me about one day he was a fishin below Helms and there were 3 guys in a boat above him. And every few minutes there would be a fish in the slot float by him Belly Up !!! Then he heard one of them say, This ***** if all we can keep is the little ones!
Either they did not know, Or more likely did not care to properly revive the fish they were catching before releasing them !

I have seen people at the cleaning station with fish in the slot! And others with way more than they should have! Heard one Dude bragging about catching over 100 fish for the weekend! And they were keeping them ! Idiots like that would ruin the river in a few years if there were no water problem.

They need more officials on the water for sure !

The work on the Dam is still the biggest problem, IMHO

Guess we have to credit the wildlife and fisheries boys for doing such a good job on the trout population and the fishing on the cr. Word spreads fast. I'm with you guys wish the dam repair was over! It's to easy to fish the river now. Remember the days of going from a few cfs to tens of thousands in a matter of a few hours? If you didn't have your act together you were subject to some serious danger! :eek:

There are a few problems that have hurt the CR over the years, besides the obvious dam repairs. Firstly, its location. Many people around these parts have not fished for trout and are acustomed to warm water species. They do not know how easily trout die! They use large hooks with barbs and throw corn (which kills trout), then they catch one and pull it out of the water like a bass or walleye, holding it by the mouth or gill (that spells death for a trout). Trout also need very limitted time out of the water....when I fly fish, I actually never even remove the trout from the water...slide the net under them, unhook, and release. Being born and raised out west were all we did was trout fish, these things were just common sense...but I have seen how out here, there is just a lack of education with most. With the increasing temps on the CR, it is even that much more important to release trout properly. The other problem with the CR is well....it's location! The area is just difficult to maintain the proper water temps with no mountain ranges or snow run-off. Of course, the only way the CR was possible is because of the size and depth of the CL, once that changed, it was doomed.

-Rich

Rocky-
PM sent.

-Rich

Peter,
Will you please attach the shock results that I sent you to this thread??? :cool:

Thanks,
Rock

[quote=rocky lane;394021]peter,
will you please attach the shock results that i sent you to this thread??? :cool:

Thanks,
rock[/quote]

somebody wake up peter!!!:d

[QUOTE=Rocky Lane;394137]somebody wake up peter!!!:d[/QUOTE]

PETER.....WAKE UP! :D

There ya go Rocky!

-Rich

I don't want to come accross to some as being negative....and I'll be the first to say I don't know much about anything;...especially about the dam work on Lake Cumberland. But my gut feeling....from what I've read about the geology changes of the undergound stability in that exact area...I can't recall all sources....I don't think they will ever restore the water level to what it once was; I'll have to see it to believe it!....There are just some things that can't be solved...when it comes to mother nature... and the power of water. You heard it first here. It might just be a success, if they are able to stabalize and work with what they got now. But that is just my 2-cents......