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If I'm on a spot and someone gets to close I'll sit tight and act like I'm detangling a bird nest or go take a swallow of water to kill some time so they'll go around me and not know I'm on something. The birdnest thing works especially good on points because no one will cast close to you. Whatever you do don't use marker buoys if there's a lot of boats around. I don't feel bad for KVD either, that's part of the price of fame.
Funny thing is..I have a fake looking Bass... I tie it on sometimes and let it sink down a ways and then when being watched intently by someone. I set the hook and real it in..in a big fight that i just delay for appeal i guess to teh one watching. ONce I net the fake fish..i make a scene about it and then put it in my live well......
Onlooker gets close and then asks wat i caught it on...I tell them the weirdest bait i have.....It's funny as hell......:D
If I had a dollar for every time someone came by and gps's me I would be able to retire. Used to make me mad when the gps equipment first came out but am more than used to it now. Has happened numerous times already this week...some were wrapped boats too so it goes both ways. Bottom line is you still have to know how to set up on the spots, lures to use and how to use them.
Kevin should look at it this way, if no one was doing that it would mean no one cared where he was fishing and he would not have the sponsors he has because it would mean he was not known for catching fish.
Fact is that the folks who are doing the gps stuff are NOT locals. The locals here know the lakes unless they are just new to fishing and still learning. Most of the folks that come by me hitting their gps are not local folks...most of them are folks that are down here getting ready for future tournaments and this includes folks in those wrapped boats. But you know what, I take it as a compliment when someone comes by and hits that gps key or follows me to my first spot although I would rather they did not.
Now as far as folks pulling up on top of me and trying to fish the spot I am on...well, now that lack of professionalism and lack of manners will earn you the wrath of this ol boy in a minute. I have no patience with folks that have no manners or show a lack of respect for their fellow boaters or anglers.
Guess I am a rude fisherman. I don't see anything wrong with marking a spot where a pro is fishing. They fish there once a year and sometimes not every year. It does help to see and feel what the "pros" fish. When there is not a tourny and no one is on that spot, why can't I cast there and see what it is they were fishing. Then take that info and use it on other areas of the lake. I don't know I just think if they are going to show you how to catch them, its no different than reading it in bassmaster magazine.
Same stuff every year.
[QUOTE=slimshad09;417726]Guess I am a rude fisherman. I don't see anything wrong with marking a spot where a pro is fishing. They fish there once a year and sometimes not every year. It does help to see and feel what the "pros" fish. When there is not a tourny and no one is on that spot, why can't I cast there and see what it is they were fishing. Then take that info and use it on other areas of the lake. I don't know I just think if they are going to show you how to catch them, its no different than reading it in bassmaster magazine.[/QUOTE]
The thing is they don't know you or your intentions. For all they know you are going to beat them to that spot in the morning. If that is their best spot and they don't make the cut they make nothing and lose money in travel. It is their job. It is how they feed their family. $10,000 is on the line every tournament. They don't get to go home to another job. I look at taking someone else's spot as cheating and if I can't catch the fish on my own I don't want to be out there. Finding the pattern, spots and putting the puzzle together is part of the fun and experience. I'm pretty sure they don't give you the GPS coordinates in bassmaster magazine either.
could it be that, the so called pro fishermen. has such an ego, that they draw the idea up in their mind. that a boat that gets close to them, is getting their gps location. it is very rare for a boat, with a stranger in it to get close enough, for you to cast and hit their boat with a lure. and I don't believe any ones sight is good enough for them to see if a fisherman a casting distance away is touching a gps key on their fishing unit. I think it's an ego thing, they say to themself, I'm so good that boat is getting my gps location. I say let the spectators watch them make every cast, it will keep them honest. they want be able to hide fish in baskets to win with. like the guys on cumberland did back a couple months ago. :)
Dave,
Didn't you just post in the other thread that tourney guys come to you? GPS or not they will go back to those spots.
So what is the tourney fisherman's gripe? I paid a guide to show me his spots but I don't want anybody else to mark them when i fish them? Seems a little screwy to me.
I just fish for crappie, catfish, and bass for fun every now and again. And when I bass fish I just beat the bank with some kind of soft plastic. I ain't no threat to nobodys bass hole just in it for the tug.
I think a lot of people have the wrong concept of why the pros talk to guides and get info. Yes a lot of them get actual fishing spots from guides, friends or whoever but most of them get info on how to find fish on that particular lake. I think most of them find there own fish. I can see why some people don't see anything wrong with gps'n some of there spots but I wouldn't do it. If they did pay for fishing spots what right do we have comin in and stealing the spots THEY payed for. I think we need to give them their space. It is the way they put food on there families table. I wouldn't want someone comin in on me at my place of work and taking money away from me.
[QUOTE=00SKEETER;417658]I doubt they come in on you "all the time" since they're only here once a year.[/QUOTE]
wrapped boats are here quite frequently. they may not be elites but they fish for a livin or try to. at least when they go out of paris they probably wont come over to barkley this week. your doubting is childish.
Ya'll are talkin about two different topics.
As for someone runnin on you, it oughta just go both ways...pros shouldn't come in on anyone and neither should an amatuer come in on a pro. Simple. And don't anyone give me the crap about "they're fishin for a livin" or "they're trying to put food on the table"....that doesn't give you the right to be an arrogant dude.
As for following/GPS'ing, the pros have to accept that amatuers want to follow them...that's the price of the fame and the $ they make because of fandom. On marking their spots, just do it by sight or memory and don't encroach so closely just to get a GPS coordinate...they're only accurate to within a few yards anyway. Unless you idle alongside his boat, you can accomplish the same thing by stopping and observing. It should be up to you to get back to that spot on your own and figure out how to catch fish off it.
Lastly, it should just be an unwritten rule that 1 Oz. egg sinker upside the head is the punishment for being a prick on the water...it's not that hard to figure out who is in the wrong in most cases.
[QUOTE=Tim_T;417667]What 50 boat tournaments and what lakes were closed? Been covering B.A.S.S. and FLW tournaments and writing for their magazines some since 1998 and have never heard of a tourney shutting a lake down. Don't think you have heard of it either. Please cite examples of PUBLIC WATER being closed to THE PUBLIC so B.A.S.S. or FLW could have a tournament.[/QUOTE]
My point wasnt even about BASS closing public water. The point I was making was KVD is very very good and he did very well in these tournaments where the field wasnt as big and pressure wasnt as bad. You just assumed I was being anti B.A.S.S. The tournaments I was talking about were called the Majors and after that the memorials. Almost all of the lakes they fished were not closed but I know when they fished days 3 and 4 on Lake Townsend in NC it was closed. And if you wanted to be anti BASS its worth noting that anglers were allowed to fish areas normally closed to the public.
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