Martin Luther King Day

[QUOTE=kydonky;438593]Hope everyone enjoyed the day off.

I spent some time yesterday reflecting on Dr. King's vision and ideals.

By coincidence I was researching a track of land in the deed room at the county courthouse last week. I traced this tract back to a deed dated 8/19/1869.

This tract of last was sold on this date by a mister Headly to a Miss Grundley. The deed stated that Miss Grundley was "a free woman of color". She paid $175.00 for the land cash in hand to Mr. Head. Then Mr. Head conveyed and tranfered the land to Mr. Sneed. It goes on to explain the land is conveyed to Mr. Sneed to hold in trust for the sole benifit of Miss. Grundley. Mr Sneed signed the deed stating that he accepted the trust that was imposed by the deed.

I guess a black person could not own land in 1869 so they had to put the land in a white persons name in trust. Good news was that when Miss Grundley sold the land in 1906 she had gained control of the trust and the land was in her name to sell.

In any case it was very interesting to see these documents and realize how the African decendents in the country have had to overcome many obsticales.

I realized that Miss Grundley was more than likely a slave at one time and was freed just 4 years prior to this deed (1865).[/QUOTE]

That may not be exactly how it goes. I am holding some deeds from that same era and they, too, are similar. This all happened before women had rights and, in this case, it seems that the man was always the one in control of family business. My great-grandfather died and left my great-grandmother with six minor children. The Probate Court appointed a guardian over her and the children. The guardian also signed a document saying that he accepted the guardianship, and the land was deeded to the guardian to hold in trust until the children became adults. She and the children continued to live at the same place while it was held in trust. My grandfather was the first to come of age and got his share of the property which was deeded to him by the guardian. As other brothers and sisters came of age, they received their share of the property. My great-grandmother was not "a woman of color" nor a slave. That's just how business was handled during that period.

I don't think the deed was being held in trust because of the color of Miss Grundley's skin or slavery but, most likely, because she was a woman, and may have also been underage.

Just my 2-cents worth.

[QUOTE=DJD;438638]Sure I support all those holidays:). I just do not agree with special treatment of MLK day for gubment thats broke and already gets too many days off. What makes them so special that we have to pay them to sit at home for MLK? Wonder what that cost us? I don't agree that a private citizen should get that honor, why should he? Of course labor unions backed this original idea.... it's just another White guilt trip laid upon the american people...JMO.

Kids could have gone to school to make up for a snow day.

Family tree leads to Santa seeing how my last name is Dasher so be nice or next year you ain't getting squat.:p[/QUOTE]

What did it cost us?

Well Louisville paid time and a half to all the emergency service employees that worked.

It's a tough spot to put small businesses in. We can't afford to pay people for every new holiday created, so a line has to be drawn somewhere. Since its not a paid holiday, we open the doors so people can get their hours in and product can go out. But we have to operate at a handicapped level because its not a true business day.

I don't argue the point that MLK was part of the catalyst for a change that made a positive impact on a lot of people's lives. With that said the annual anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack and the 9/11 attack are much more deserving of a holiday that closes the federal government. Both days serve as an example of the cohesiveness of all Americans and are not honored with the federal red carpet that MLK day is.

[QUOTE=bassin_bug;438655]That may not be exactly how it goes. I am holding some deeds from that same era and they, too, are similar. This all happened before women had rights and, in this case, it seems that the man was always the one in control of family business. My great-grandfather died and left my great-grandmother with six minor children. The Probate Court appointed a guardian over her and the children. The guardian also signed a document saying that he accepted the guardianship, and the land was deeded to the guardian to hold in trust until the children became adults. She and the children continued to live at the same place while it was held in trust. My grandfather was the first to come of age and got his share of the property which was deeded to him by the guardian. As other brothers and sisters came of age, they received their share of the property. My great-grandmother was not "a woman of color" nor a slave. That's just how business was handled during that period.

I don't think the deed was being held in trust because of the color of Miss Grundley's skin or slavery but, most likely, because she was a woman, and may have also been underage.

Just my 2-cents worth.[/QUOTE]


Interesting. You may well be correct. I was making an assumption based on what I read in the deed. Have no idea of the law at that time. Women did not get the vote right untill the 1900's so more than likely you are correct. I don't want to debate weather to give paid hollidays for MLK day. We have many hollidays that are not paid federal hollidays, but we can still celebrate the memory of a good man or cause with or without taking the day off. The state does not pay presidents day, but we can still think of George fondly on that day.

[QUOTE=ckline2006;438657]What did it cost us?

Well Louisville paid time and a half to all the emergency service employees that worked.

I don't argue the point that MLK was part of the catalyst for a change that made a positive impact on a lot of people's lives. With that said the annual anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack and the 9/11 attack are much more deserving of a holiday that closes the federal government. Both days serve as an example of the cohesiveness of all Americans and are not honored with the federal red carpet that MLK day is.[/QUOTE]

All EMS workers got time and a half? I guess Fire and Police personnel did to then. I wonder who else did?

I agree 100% on Pearl Harbor and 911 events being recognized as some sort of holiday way before MLK should be recognized. The only recognition either two of those tragical historic events get are some mention of it on the radio and some news coverage from somewhere showing us the last of a few good men who were around during the attack of Pearl Harbor

I've always worked on MLK day and always will....if it wasn't for the media giving it attention I wouldn't even know what day this bogus holiday falls on.

[QUOTE=ckline2006;438653]Teachers are required to document a certain number of training hours each year. I don't know if they are required to attend training on those specific days now, but they didn't use to. However, if they didn't use those off days for training, they had to use their "unpaid" time in the summer to complete the required training.[/QUOTE]

I'm required to get additional training ALL THE **** TIME......and most of it on my own dime.......that is unless I want my job to be outsourced to some Indian.

WHO gives a crap if they have to better themselves on their own time. UNIONS ****............when we wake up and recognize that, maybe we will flourish a little.

[QUOTE=ckline2006;438657]What did it cost us?

Well Louisville paid time and a half to all the emergency service employees that worked.

It's a tough spot to put small businesses in. We can't afford to pay people for every new holiday created, so a line has to be drawn somewhere. Since its not a paid holiday, we open the doors so people can get their hours in and product can go out. But we have to operate at a handicapped level because its not a true business day.

I don't argue the point that MLK was part of the catalyst for a change that made a positive impact on a lot of people's lives. With that said the annual anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack and the 9/11 attack are much more deserving of a holiday that closes the federal government. Both days serve as an example of the cohesiveness of all Americans and are not honored with the federal red carpet that MLK day is.[/QUOTE]
I did not get time and a half I got straight time. I don't know any metro gov employee who gets time and a half if it is with in his 40 hours.

[QUOTE=zx150;438688]I did not get time and a half I got straight time. I don't know any metro gov employee who gets time and a half if it is with in his 40 hours.[/QUOTE]

Just checked with my wife and I may have made too general of a statement. She isn't sure that all emergency services got time and a half, but she did (EMS).