Muslims HATE us..............when will we learn.

[QUOTE=Bobby Headrick;444173]Good speach ther catfish. The muslims have money, they have the oil, some of the richest people in the world are muslim, so i do not belive they hate us for being rich, i aint rich, so why they hating on me? There has been some sorta war between the christians and muslims forever, and will always be. [/QUOTE]

Although radical Muslims do believe in the concept of "infidel Christians", they don't hate us because we're Christian. They hate us because our country, which they perceive as a Christian country whether it is or not, has troops on the ground in what they consider sacred territory. They hate us for supporting the ruthless Shah of Iran and for attempting to engineer other coups in the Mideast. Basically, they hate us for our foreign policy.

[QUOTE=Chubminnow;444234]It came up in the discussion Catfish....Bobby Headricks post mentioned cheaper energy, I was just following through.

Oil wells here would be nice too though.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=jcb;444308]Although radical Muslims do believe in the concept of "infidel Christians", they don't hate us because we're Christian. They hate us because our country, which they perceive as a Christian country whether it is or not, has troops on the ground in what they consider sacred territory. They hate us for supporting the ruthless Shah of Iran and for attempting to engineer other coups in the Mideast. Basically, they hate us for our foreign policy.[/QUOTE]

Na.....that is too easy.

They HATE us because they HATE Christians. Not because we're over there. Read passages in the Koran. Radical Muslims are ordered by Allah to KILL the infidel......US.

AND do you realize that if you covert from Islam to anything else, Allah requires that you be KILLED......yea, the HATE everything not Islam.

So don't give me that bull they don't HATE, because they do.

Later,

Geo

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;444533]Na.....that is too easy.

They HATE us because they HATE Christians. Not because we're over there. Read passages in the Koran. Radical Muslims are ordered by Allah to KILL the infidel......US.

AND do you realize that if you covert from Islam to anything else, Allah requires that you be KILLED......yea, the HATE everything not Islam.

So don't give me that bull they don't HATE, because they do.

Later,

Geo[/QUOTE]

I'm trying to figure out why you're arguing that they hate, because I didn't say they didn't hate. I said they hate us primarily for our foreign policy, which is 100% accurate.

All you have to do is look at the messages Bin Laden and other radical Islamists use to whip up their followers for their jihad. Look at the pronouncements Bin Laden makes periodically, and his rationalizations for 9/11. They are always centered on our occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, not some vague anti-Christian feeling.

As usual, reality is much more complicated than what you might see on the news. It's not simply a Muslim vs. Christian thing.

As far as "Allah requiring that you be killed" if you convert, and I know this is a dead horse that has been beaten many times on this board, but I'll say it again: you are expressing one radical interpretation of the Qu'ran. If you can say that as a blanket statement about Muslims, you have NO basis to refute the posters from Westboro Church that say "Thank God for Dead Soldiers". None.

[QUOTE=jcb;444551]I'm trying to figure out why you're arguing that they hate, because I didn't say they didn't hate. I said they hate us primarily for our foreign policy, which is 100% accurate.

All you have to do is look at the messages Bin Laden and other radical Islamists use to whip up their followers for their jihad. Look at the pronouncements Bin Laden makes periodically, and his rationalizations for 9/11. They are always centered on our occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, not some vague anti-Christian feeling.

As usual, reality is much more complicated than what you might see on the news. It's not simply a Muslim vs. Christian thing.

As far as "Allah requiring that you be killed" if you convert, and I know this is a dead horse that has been beaten many times on this board, but I'll say it again: you are expressing one radical interpretation of the Qu'ran. If you can say that as a blanket statement about Muslims, you have NO basis to refute the posters from Westboro Church that say "Thank God for Dead Soldiers". None.[/QUOTE]

I don't get it........

How about you go to ANY Muslim country and try to build a church. How about Saudi, how about IRAQ, how about IRAN, and see how you're treated.

You are full of CRAP if you don't believe the RADICAL FACTIONS of Islam don't hate us. Go ahead, take a bible business to any of those countries, and try to sell them. I hope you have an IRON CLAD NECK.......

Get your head out of the sand. They have ALWAYS hated us.

And as I said about this particular group.......they are RADICAL.....not all Muslims are RADICAL but some are.

As for the westboro folks...they are RADICAL Christians, and I feel the same way....they are FILLED WITH HATE due to some twisted view of their religion........I'm just glad they don't seem to be violent..........yet.

Later,

Geo

How about the Christian woman from Pakistan who is on DEATH ROW for alledged blasphemy against ALLAH?

How about the Coptic Christians all around the world who are being EXECUTED??

How about Coptic Christians in IRAQ who no longer have public celebrations due to the RADICAL HATE??

You say I'm brainwashed by the media, and FAUX news........well, I can turn that around and say you're ignorant to simple facts. FACTS that radical muslims prove true every day.

Later,

Geo

Geo, there is no question that RADICAL Muslims hate us. The problem is that you seem to want to lump all Muslims into the same camp. It would be like condeming all Christians due to what the Westboro Church preaches.

Andrew

****, I know where I stand now as a white Christian Union member who voted for Obama. HATE is such a wonderful word isn't it Geo?

[QUOTE=apb;444599]Geo, there is no question that RADICAL Muslims hate us. The problem is that you seem to want to lump all Muslims into the same camp. It would be like condeming all Christians due to what the Westboro Church preaches.

Andrew[/QUOTE]

I don't think so.

My original comment on the post specifically stated RADICAL muslim.

And every post afterwards specifically stated RADICAL muslim.

So, I think I'm completely clear on what I'm saying........

And I think I was more than clear with my comments above about Westboro.......

Later,

Geo

[QUOTE=stratosjoe;444609]****, I know where I stand now as a white Christian Union member who voted for Obama. HATE is such a wonderful word isn't it Geo?[/QUOTE]

I've never stated or implied that I hate your or any other Obamunist. Even if you are a union member .

I think the day of reckoning...when it comes, and WHEN we have to pay for the programs that have been passed due to Obama, you may wish you hadn't supported him. Maybe, Maybe not. Personally, I don't care.

I have my view, you have yours. The wonderful thing about this country is that we will peacefully CHANGE the political landscape in a year. GOTTA love that.........and then it will be your time to bitch and complain again.

Later,

Geo

[QUOTE=apb;444599]Geo, there is no question that RADICAL Muslims hate us. The problem is that you seem to want to lump all Muslims into the same camp. It would be like condeming all Christians due to what the Westboro Church preaches.

Andrew[/QUOTE]

and BTW..........nice seeing you again......

Did I mention that Radical Muslims hate Christians?

Now, I'm thinking that maybe ALL Muslims hate Christians.........

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Later,

Geo