How did you celebrate MLK Day?

[QUOTE=DJD;477898]First off obamy is half black but what bothers me the most about black people, their special treatment, the white guilt and overall black attitude is this.
1) If you want to be treated as an equal by all races stop placing yourself in this victim mode.
2) Why do you denigrate eachother with this N word but it's fighting words if a white man says it? Again special treatment.
3) Slavery? How many generations ago has this happened?
4) MLK had a dream what has happened to it? Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Jeremiah wright? Do they know represent your cause? If so change courses.
5) NAACP, black panthers, Miss Black America, MLK day, black history month, bet and on and on. No other race has this special treatment so why should they?
Don't get me wrong I have dated, lived with, bunked with in the army, had best friends and family friends who were black. I'm just saying if you want to soar with eagles stop hanging with turkeys. Stop acting like poor me and raise yourself up and excel.
I never meet a person of any color without giving them an opportunity to be themselves and be treated as an equal. I have met and disliked people of all colors, age groups and genders. I have been a victim of racial discrimination so I speak from experience. I dealt with it and so did my family. We never received anything special for it? Why does anyone else?[/QUOTE]

I think MLK holliday was in place before Obama was president. I don't think Obama ever met him.

So why link Obama and Martin Luther King?

I think I heard some of your same arguments back in 1963. It was not about slavery, its about equal rights now.

I worked.

One of my favorite CD's is James Taylor's "Best Live." I make a point of playing it every year on MLK Day, to listen to track 4, "Shed A Little Light." It's about MLK Day, which to me is about putting aside, for one day, all the crap that divides us (like the list of things DJD brings up in every thread on this subject), and concentrating on what brings us together. It starts out:

Let us turn our thoughts today to Martin Luther King
And recognize that there are ties between us
All men and women living on the earth
Ties of hope and love Sister and brotherhood
That we are bound together
In our desire to see the world become
A place in which our children can grow free and strong
We are bound together
By the task that stands before us
And the road that lies ahead
We are bound and we are bound

I think it's a good holiday, even though I don't get a day off. There is still a LOT of work to be done on race relations, by BOTH sides, and it's good to have a day put aside to reflect on that. Maybe one day Dr. King's Dream will be realized; then we can stop celebrating this holiday.

[QUOTE=kydonky;477908]I think MLK holliday was in place before Obama was president. I don't think Obama ever met him.

So why link Obama and Martin Luther King?

I think I heard some of your same arguments back in 1963. It was not about slavery, its about equal rights now.[/QUOTE]

Im sorry but I don't agree. Listen to anyone who discusses this issue and you will get to the root of the discussion and it's slavery, racism and all that stuff that pushes the white guilt. I'm not afraid to discuss this and most folks are and frankly I find it an out to say equal rights as opposed to the real issue. We all have equal rights but some choose to be the victim and some people are.....of every race not just blacks. I would be happy if they changed it to happy race day and get rid of the MLK day. Think that would make some black folks unhappy? I think it would and slavery would be tossed into their outcry from day one. Bet on it.

[QUOTE=RoadToad;477911]One of my favorite CD's is James Taylor's "Best Live." I make a point of playing it every year on MLK Day, to listen to track 4, "Shed A Little Light." It's about MLK Day, which to me is about putting aside, for one day, all the crap that divides us (like the list of things DJD brings up in every thread on this subject), and concentrating on what brings us together. It starts out:

Let us turn our thoughts today to Martin Luther King
And recognize that there are ties between us
All men and women living on the earth
Ties of hope and love Sister and brotherhood
That we are bound together
In our desire to see the world become
A place in which our children can grow free and strong
We are bound together
By the task that stands before us
And the road that lies ahead
We are bound and we are bound

I think it's a good holiday, even though I don't get a day off. There is still a LOT of work to be done on race relations, by BOTH sides, and it's good to have a day put aside to reflect on that. Maybe one day Dr. King's Dream will be realized; then we can stop celebrating this holiday.[/QUOTE]

RT...I think thats sweet and I think I heard birds chirping and felt a sun beam on my arm as I read that but thats fantasy.:)

Seriously, is this reality? It's a song nothing more. Racism isn't only against whites and blacks and thats prolly my biggest problem I have with this. The black have angled their way into it being about them and whites. The media does the same....It just isn't accurate and if as a country we wanted to be fair we would not have all this separation. American Indians, African Americans, Asian Americans, Latin American and on and on. What about the distinction of Jewish, Irish, German or whatever? They don't get any special designation for all the things I listed in another post. Why not? Because of stuff that happened hundreds of years ago?

I think the holiday itself is a joke (MLK had a great idea but has been lost) and if I were a federal employee (once was) who had that day off I would still think the same. Sorry RT it's just my upbringing....:) I also know that what makes the black community happy and it's getting special treatment...if you don't believe that cold hard fact look back on the black folks who said they were gonna be set now that a black man was president. Some thought he would pay their mortgage! Why does the black community usually vote Dem? It's because they get promises from them and the media that only they can continue to help them and the GOP are racists. Cain gets bashed and railroaded because he wants blacks to change and stop playing the victim. Like I said it's more than a song or MLK day it's racism to the highest order. Most folks would rather shy away from it and give in to the white guilt. I won't since discussions goes both ways.

Im not a KKK fan or a Black Panther fan either as I see both as mislead thugs who can't work their way through a discussion without hate and that shows weakness. Anyone can get mean and fight...takes a strong person to refraim from that...I have learned that as I grow older.

[QUOTE=DJD;477930]Im sorry but I don't agree. Listen to anyone who discusses this issue and you will get to the root of the discussion and it's slavery, racism and all that stuff that pushes the white guilt. I'm not afraid to discuss this and most folks are and frankly I find it an out to say equal rights as opposed to the real issue. We all have equal rights but some choose to be the victim and some people are.....of every race not just blacks. I would be happy if they changed it to happy race day and get rid of the MLK day. Think that would make some black folks unhappy? I think it would and slavery would be tossed into their outcry from day one. Bet on it.[/QUOTE]

I don't know where you were in the 60s, but it was about segrigation not slavery. It was about discrimination in houseing, public schools, public transportation and just about every aspect of public life. Rosa Parks did not protest for her ancestors she refused to give her seat up on the bus because she was black.

I don't know about this white guilt stuff, I'm white and I don't feel guilty. But I do appreciate the struggles that many endurred to enact changes in actions and thought. I also appreciate those that fought WWII to stand up to injustice and the yankees that fought in the first war. Not just wars either, Gaundi's non violent protest in India (BTW, MLK adopted this stratergy).

I know you may be insulted that I refered to the revolutionary soldiers as yankees, but this is how they referred to themselves.

[QUOTE=DJD;477868]Amen!! We didn't get it off but we do take Good Friday off!! So take that all you Muslims!! :p

If we start obamy day as a holiday I'm moving to Fiji and living in a hut on the beach wearing a loin cloth and laying around with the native women. :p[/QUOTE]

I'm an equal opportunist.......I don't get GOOD FRIDAY off either.

Later,

Geo

[QUOTE=MsgMills;477900]Man couldn't agree more...

Good news is, since Omama is the POTUS..No other Holiday should be made up special just to celebrate something he couldn't do as the worst POTUS in the history of the Presidency.

Thank goodness he'll only be lumped into all the other Presidents whom we give credit to on President's Day. But now that this man will be added to the list of men whom will be celebrated. The Holiday just seems like it's lost it's appeal to me now, since this man has done such a terrible job as the POTUS, even worse than Jimmy (Peanut ) Carter did while in office.

Hate to say it, but looks like Romney will be the next Reagan in the line of men elected by a lanslide to defeat the current POTUS.

But in all due respect Ronald Reagan was one of the most liked and one of the only Presidents to have actually done a great job while in Office.....[/QUOTE]

You just WAIT...............Obama DAY is coming...........first black president. It will be AS soon as he is no longer president. And those on the left and in the black caucus will FIGHT for this until National Obama Day is here. Not only that, but because of his greatness, you will probably get off 2 days from work to celebrate it.

later,

Geo

I would say Obama days is already here, there are lots of people that have been celebrating by being out of work. :)

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;477946]You just WAIT...............Obama DAY is coming...........first black president. It will be AS soon as he is no longer president. And those on the left and in the black caucus will FIGHT for this until National Obama Day is here. Not only that, but because of his greatness, you will probably get off 2 days from work to celebrate it.

later,

Geo[/QUOTE] I agree, it is coming and I think we will have to wait 4 more years to know for sure. but when Obama day does come, it will be made possible by those around him. we can't blame Obama for it. because he don't like hollidays, he don't even like " TAX HOLLIDAYS "

[QUOTE=kydonky;477936]I don't know where you were in the 60s, but it was about segrigation not slavery. It was about discrimination in houseing, public schools, public transportation and just about every aspect of public life. Rosa Parks did not protest for her ancestors she refused to give her seat up on the bus because she was black.

I don't know about this white guilt stuff, I'm white and I don't feel guilty. But I do appreciate the struggles that many endurred to enact changes in actions and thought. I also appreciate those that fought WWII to stand up to injustice and the yankees that fought in the first war. Not just wars either, Gaundi's non violent protest in India (BTW, MLK adopted this stratergy).

I know you may be insulted that I refered to the revolutionary soldiers as yankees, but this is how they referred to themselves.[/QUOTE]

Lol :p not insulted at all. You don't know about white guilt?? This is a big old world and it seems you and I grew up in a different section or time all together. I was a kid in the 60's so all I know is what i lived with in the 70's, and 80's while going to school in several states and overseas.

Your more of a all are equal, I'll help everyone I can kind of guy and that's commendable. I'm not that way, never have been. I don't give a rats patootie about most (but not all) people who have their handout, cry about equal rights or say the gubment owes them something. If I know you then we are cool and I'll do whatever I can to help, along with family.

As a rule....I'm more of a deal with what you have, make it better, work hard and don't need handouts, work three jobs if you have to, don't live above your means and be responsible for your actions kind of guy.

Been raised with a strong Military father, military schools, two years ROTC and four years Army. No wussy, handout attitude allowed! You fail it's your fault...make it better or pay the consequences. It's just me and I don't apologize for it...just letting you know where I'm coming from.

[QUOTE=Tim_T;477952]I would say Obama days is already here, there are lots of people that have been celebrating by being out of work. :)[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes: OMG you are so correct!:)