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Liberals just don't get it, they are to soft and everything has to have the ''Feel Good'' factor.
Dave and Don are spot on as are many that feel the same way. Protection is the answer not gun control. Taking away all the guns and things from good people leave onlt the BAD people to have them.
[QUOTE=mhall;504572]Liberals just don't get it, they are to soft and everything has to have the ''Feel Good'' factor.
Dave and Don are spot on as are many that feel the same way. Protection is the answer not gun control. Taking away all the guns and things from good people leave onlt the BAD people to have them.[/QUOTE]
I agree, I'm not in favor of taking a knife to a gun fight. And if the bad guy only has a knife, I'm not showing up armed with good intentions.
I guess if we did eliminate all guns, and knives, the rocks and sharp sticks would be the next thing on the agenda.
I don't think Viking's had guns. I don't think the Romans, or Greeks, or Spartans, or Samurais, or Knights of the Round Table carried "Nines", S&W, or Rugers. Yet they succeeded in killing to achieve their goals.
I think what we really need to eliminate are "bad intentions". I'm just not sure how we change the values of mankind to achieve that.
Does it bother the gun totin advocates that believe we need to go back to the 1800's as a way to improve our feeling of 'safety'... I spent a year over seas and was required to have a weapon near at all times, I didn't like it then and I certainly wouldn't like it now... I just don't believe we need to go back to the mind set of the old west and put a shooting iron on everybody's hip, it was a more dangerous time then than now... I believe the more guns we put in our everyday lives the more threatened we will be, I believe the bad outweighs the good in this case.
[QUOTE=Hlleonard;504581]Does it bother the gun totin advocates that believe we need to go back to the 1800's as a way to improve our feeling of 'safety'... I spent a year over seas and was required to have a weapon near at all times, I didn't like it then and I certainly wouldn't like it now... I just don't believe we need to go back to the mind set of the old west and put a shooting iron on everybody's hip, it was a more dangerous time then than now... I believe the more guns we put in our everyday lives the more threatened we will be, I believe the bad outweighs the good in this case.[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly. The presence of guns is not a deterrence for violent crimes. Yes, there was an armed guard hired for columbine (like I said too many variables) - he was out to lunch. What about Va. Tech - they had their own police department and trained SWAT team, or Ft. Hood - a military base? I just think, people committing these violent crimes go into it with a death wish - we could arm every citizen, and these things will likely still occur.
For the record - I am not against more police presence in school (we have a resource officer in our school - and I feel safer knowing that), however, the original post was about teachers (untrained citizens - or citizens with limited training) carrying guns in our schools around our children - if anything, that makes me feel less safe.
Put some trained, armed guards in schools? I'm all for it. Try to arm the people that currently work there? Bad idea. Not all of them have the temperament to make sound decisions with a firearm. IMHO arming all the teachers would cause more tragedies than it would prevent.
[QUOTE=RoadToad;504603]Put some trained, armed guards in schools? I'm all for it. Try to arm the people that currently work there? Bad idea. Not all of them have the temperament to make sound decisions with a firearm. IMHO arming all the teachers would cause more tragedies than it would prevent.[/QUOTE]
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I agree completely.
[QUOTE=kygorski;504522]I'll just look at as some armed kook who should be avoided.[/QUOTE]
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Got it. Isn't that, by definition.......deterrence?
"Deterrence is one of the primary objects of the Criminal Law. Its primary goal is to discourage members of society from committing criminal acts out of fear of punishment."
I agree with ya Ski, matter of personal, and lawful choice.