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[QUOTE=waterdog101;505204]could it really be that you 6 or 7 guys on here are right about President Obama, and the rest of these people are wrong. they sure don't see him like you guys do.[url=http://www.gallup.com/poll/159587/hillary-clinton-barack-obama-admired-2012.aspx]Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama Most Admired in 2012[/url][/QUOTE]
History will judge them.........and history will be HARSH.
[QUOTE=waterdog101;505204]could it really be that you 6 or 7 guys on here are right about President Obama, and the rest of these people are wrong. they sure don't see him like you guys do.[URL="http://www.gallup.com/poll/159587/hillary-clinton-barack-obama-admired-2012.aspx"]Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama Most Admired in 2012[/URL][/QUOTE]
Gag, puke and passout!!! This post explains why we as a country are in trouble. This turd has become a Hollywood symbol and Hillary well who cares. Turdman is the most admired huh?? Doesn't that scream volumes to you? Go back to your parenting days (totally assuming you were my apologies if you were not) its so much easier to be a friend and buddy to kids as opposed to being a responsible adult who makes the adult decisions and wears the big boy pants. You can see where I am going with this....he is a Hollywood stooge that's all.
On the other hand....he has an endless spending budget, doesn't do anything unless he wants to, has many people to blame when stuff goes wrong, has millions of media hanging on his every
move, can spend millions of others dollars on vacation and can never ever ever be without a paycheck. Hmmmm I think the turd got it right!! :p
Dont forget he won the piece of ----- prize as well...spelling is correct! Heck before its done he will win an Oscar, Heisman, Grammy and an honorable college diploma from whatever community college he attended. The guy is a joke and so is his legacy.
Got paid today. Around $140 a month more from me to the government. Spend it wisely Uncle Sam, I just know you will.
Don't know about history, but I have a feeling there are quite few more than 6 or 7 of us who aren't real thrilled with the president who promised our taxes wouldn't go up.
Right now, if I had the power I swear to God, I'd toss every single politician in Washington DC out on the freakin street.
I'm no more happy about this than anybody else, but let's put it in perspective. What this is, is a temporary 2% cut in Social Security tax, which was put in 2 years ago to help us get through the recession, being allowed to expire, because BOTH sides, Republicans and Democrats, voted to allow it to, not because Obama decided it should.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but yes, REPUBLICANS also voted for this.
[QUOTE=RoadToad;505227]I'm no more happy about this than anybody else, but let's put it in perspective. What this is, is a temporary 2% cut in Social Security tax, which was put in 2 years ago to help us get through the recession, being allowed to expire, because BOTH sides, Republicans and Democrats, voted to allow it to, not because Obama decided it should.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but yes, REPUBLICANS also voted for this.[/QUOTE]
So there is a difference between letting something expire and adding a tax? To me there is not unless you just pass over the problems with this and toss in a few assumptions.
I assume they feel the economy is doing so well that it's ok to do this? (oopps...I forgot the bogus numbers during the election.)
I assume they feel that no new taxes on the middle class meant "new" as in never used before? (look you can shine a turd but in the end it's still a turd)
I assume that when he stood up and said no new taxes we were supposed to read the fine print that exempted him from being a part of this? (once again he gets off....funny how that works)
I assume he fought hard to stop this and had no earthly or heavenly power to stop this?
In the end I'm paying more so to me this can be sliced and diced into tidbits to free any blame on him but in reality he bears some of it.
Whose bubble are you popping?? I think they all suk eggs. All of them! I just hate how no matter what this idiot says or does that people act as if he had no choice or it's not his fault.
I came off as defending Obama too much. You're right, he deserves his share of the blame. I just wanted to point out that there's plenty of blame to go around, and it's not 100% his. But that's the pattern on this board, blindness to how eff'ed up the Republican Party is today, every single problem is Obama's fault and nobody else's.
[QUOTE=RoadToad;505231]I came off as defending Obama too much. You're right, he deserves his share of the blame. I just wanted to point out that there's plenty of blame to go around, and it's not 100% his. But that's the pattern on this board, blindness to how eff'ed up the Republican Party is today, every single problem is Obama's fault and nobody else's.[/QUOTE]
Lol I know but it's kinda like the old "It's Bush's fault" for everything even when Democrats voted his way. :) I sincerely think both parties have lost their minds so I'm an equal opportunity grump!!
[QUOTE=GeoFisher;505205]History will judge them.........and history will be HARSH.[/QUOTE]
History is written by those in power. It appears to me that "they" will remain in power for a very long time.:mad:
Too many people getting free stuff.
[QUOTE=DJD;505210]Gag, puke and passout!!! This post explains why we as a country are in trouble. This turd has become a Hollywood symbol and Hillary well who cares. Turdman is the most admired huh?? Doesn't that scream volumes to you? Go back to your parenting days (totally assuming you were my apologies if you were not) its so much easier to be a friend and buddy to kids as opposed to being a responsible adult who makes the adult decisions and wears the big boy pants. You can see where I am going with this....he is a Hollywood stooge that's all.
On the other hand....he has an endless spending budget, doesn't do anything unless he wants to, has many people to blame when stuff goes wrong, has millions of media hanging on his every
move, can spend millions of others dollars on vacation and can never ever ever be without a paycheck. Hmmmm I think the turd got it right!! :p
Dont forget he won the piece of ----- prize as well...spelling is correct! Heck before its done he will win an Oscar, Heisman, Grammy and an honorable college diploma from whatever community college he attended. The guy is a joke and so is his legacy.[/QUOTE]
100% right on. We are in big trouble as a country. I don't think our grandchildren's children will see a recouvery.
[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2256972/Middle-earners-hit-hardest-revealed-workers-making-30-000-bigger-hit-earning-500-000-new-fiscal-deal.html]Middle-earners hit hardest as it's revealed workers making $30,000 will take a bigger hit than those earning $500,000 in the new fiscal deal | Mail Online[/url]
[QUOTE=Devils Horse;505211]Got paid today. Around $140 a month more from me to the government. Spend it wisely Uncle Sam, I just know you will.
Don't know about history, but I have a feeling there are quite few more than 6 or 7 of us who aren't real thrilled with the president who promised our taxes wouldn't go up.
Right now, if I had the power I swear to God, I'd toss every single politician in Washington DC out on the freakin street.[/QUOTE]
So you make 8 grand a month! Could you spare a brother some change?
[QUOTE=GeoFisher;505243][url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2256972/Middle-earners-hit-hardest-revealed-workers-making-30-000-bigger-hit-earning-500-000-new-fiscal-deal.html]Middle-earners hit hardest as it's revealed workers making $30,000 will take a bigger hit than those earning $500,000 in the new fiscal deal | Mail Online[/url][/QUOTE]
No way that is true. Bo said that he was not going to raise taxes on the middle income folks. Do you realy think he would lie to the American people?