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[QUOTE=Hlleonard;505692]--
I was thinking the same thing, I'm not sure what guys with this kind of thinking believe will happen to their wife and kids but it does sound like they aren't thinking of them at all... If your guns are more important than your family you need to do some serious rethinking about whats important in your life.[/QUOTE]
A man's principles are the most important thing to him, without them you don't have much. His family is part of those principles, so are his rights and those of his family. Men have, and still will give everything for their principles.
Mark's line of thought is the very reason this great country came to be. Yours allowed governments in the old countries to treat people the way they did and cause them to come here to begin with.
You are the one who needs to do some serious thinking.
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[QUOTE=Devils Horse;505695]A man's principles are the most important thing to him, without them you don't have much. His family is part of those principles, so are his rights and those of his family. Men have, and still will give everything for their principles.
Mark's line of thought is the very reason this great country came to be. Yours allowed governments in the old countries to treat people the way they did and cause them to come here to begin with.
You are the one who needs to do some serious thinking.[/QUOTE]
Thank you Jim, that means alot man it really does.
These guys are sheep, I am not and will not roll over for Communist wanna be's. I know TONS nad I mean TONS of guys that think just like me.
I made no idol threats, I strickly said I would fight for a major cause and will, nothing more, nothing less. Knew what I was saying when I said it still mean it. Be mindless Sheep wandering aimlessly to slaughtler I will not join you.
Grow a spine............
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[QUOTE=kygorski;505694]If it comes to that[and it wont], the ones coming for yer guns, wont be chinese or arabic. They will be american citizens who swore to up hold the legals laws of the constitution. Guys with wives and kids who want to live a peacefull life. Who are following lawfull, legal jobs, for the good of the country.[/QUOTE]
OK...........for shits and giggles.......lets play some what if games.
SO, lets say the Obamunist in chief decides to decree all guns are illegal by executive order. Yea, NEVER happening, but this jack booted Obamunist just might do it.......
First.....there are 100 million gun owners, owning about 500 million guns. How are you going to collect them.
Second....the "collectors" are probably also owners........how are you going to collect from the collectors.
Third....many if not MOST of the collectors will probably opt not to collect and simply be owners to be collected from.
Fourth.........many if not MOST of the military......the might of the collectors are also owners, to be collected from. How do you deal with that.
Fifth........all of the above will be happening WHILE patriotic Americans take a stand, and defend their right to bear arms.
Obviously the jack booted Obamunist FOOLS on the hill have thought about that......
They may ban weapons, they may ban assault rifles, they may ban magazines......but NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE will be knocking on your door anytime soon to collect........GUARANTEED.
Later,
Geo
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Lets be silly for a moment and say that somehow our Idiot in Chief executive ordered martial law and all active duty Military the FBI, CIA, ATF and Police from Federal Marshals down to city Cops come and disarm ALL American citizens.
First off this will never happen in our lifetime, its just crazy but lets talk about it..
1. Most and I mean 70% plus of our fine Military and others mentioned above would refuse to do so. Thats right they would say, Fire me, I'm done I will not fight my own brothers and sisters.
2. If such a thing was to transpire there would be a Civil war unlike any fiction Novel writer coukld ever dream up. The armed citizens in this country that are God fearing, hard working Joe's like SOME of you would not go lightly, trust me, they won't.
3. Would our Idiot In Chief order to take these said guns at all cost even if letahl force was necessary?>? Not even Obama is that stupid, Biden maybe, but at least not Obama.
Finally I am not a full blown Prepper yet, but I know some guys that are doing it. They have small arsenals and enough ammo to last and last. They have food items, cothing, water I can go on and on. Most of these guys have never committed a crime in their whole life, are college educated and work every single day without fail. Your savior Obama and this insane Liberal movement has steered them in this direction. I'm not there yet and may never get there, but I ams stock piling a few things.
Now here's my question to you Liberals...
If they litterally come to your door and start demanding your guns are you just going to give it to them and give them a big..''You are just doing your job'' farewell?
Whats next that will be taken away from you, are you ready to say Hile Hitler and march in Obama's citizen camps.
I'll patiently await the Sheep's anwers............Baaaaaaaa...
Sorry Geo, I was typing this while you were typing yours, didn't mean to be redundant. Great minds think alike Brother....;)
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It's going to suk for all of us once crazy Biden and Idiot Obama get done with this. It's a freaky side show and Biden is going to try and make a statement because he is in charge of something....finally. He is already making it a hotbed of nonsense by opening his stupid mouth AGAIN without any details or any ability to make a decision without his daddy saying ok. He is a class A idiot!!!!
Who in their right mind can look at Biden and say yep he has a good head on his shoulders and has good advice from people like the Brady Group and Feinstein and then say we are in good hands? We are not. They can't even decide on what the problem is. So they say Guns, Mental Health, TV violence, video games and whatever else they can toss in. Wanna bet its the guns that get the heaviest hit? The legal tax payers that get hit the hardest? Wanna bet this will be the worst legislation ever? These guys are looking for another Obamacare moment where they saved us from ourselves. If you voted for these tools I hope your happy because something you enjoy or feel is your right will be attacked soon enough. These fools cannot help themselves and they have blind loyalty from folks who are ignorant to the facts.
These folks are certifiable. Period! They do not deal with facts they deal with emotions and get steered by special interest groups and political groups. We are doomed for some legislation that's a fact...how bad well thats where folks like the NRA help. Their voice is powerful and if you want to be on the side of fighting for our rights and fighting tyrants like Biden, Feinstein and Obama you should be a member. It's our own special interest group.
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So I'm a commie nut?
[QUOTE=Devils Horse;505695]A man's principles are the most important thing to him, without them you don't have much. His family is part of those principles, so are his rights and those of his family. Men have, and still will give everything for their principles.
Mark's line of thought is the very reason this great country came to be. Yours allowed governments in the old countries to treat people the way they did and cause them to come here to begin with.
You are the one who needs to do some serious thinking.[/QUOTE]
I did some serious thinking when I enlisted in the armed forces.My honerable dischage gave me and all of us who served swore to uphold the constitution. I'm not going to go back on that promise.I call that a principle also. Maybe you dont recall, but I said years ago, be armed, be silent. be vigilant, sometimes you dont know who your enemy is!
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[QUOTE=kygorski;505703]I did some serious thinking when I enlisted in the armed forces.My honerable dischage gave me and all of us who served swore to uphold the constitution. I'm not going to go back on that promise.I call that a principle also. Maybe you dont recall, but I said years ago, be armed, be silent. be vigilant, sometimes you dont know who your enemy is![/QUOTE]
Then you don't mind defending the Second amendment of that same constitution.................Right....
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[QUOTE=kygorski;505703]I did some serious thinking when I enlisted in the armed forces.My honerable dischage gave me and all of us who served swore to uphold the constitution. I'm not going to go back on that promise.I call that a principle also. Maybe you dont recall, but I said years ago, be armed, be silent. be vigilant, sometimes you dont know who your enemy is![/QUOTE]
I didn't call you anything, just stated my opinion. You introduced the commie nut stuff.
I will point out your oath was to uphold the constitution, not politicians.
Thank you for your service to the country.
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What did I say
Since I already have given my views on the second ammendment many times, and foolishly posted my thoughts on firearms, I think its rather clear.I screwed up by even talking about firearms,and the FBI has my purchase records.But what I fail to grasp is this. Will an insurrection bring about a utopia?I'm not worried about the government that much, what keeps me nervous is PRIVATE SECURITY FORCES. And the aftermath. Who will rule? I'm old wont bother me that much. I'm a realist. My time is short.But some of you ought to be thinking about where we are right now. Its NOT a democracy. Its an oligarcy. And that is very difficult to change,but carefully planned years ago.
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[QUOTE=kygorski;505710]Since I already have given my views on the second ammendment many times, and foolishly posted my thoughts on firearms, I think its rather clear.I screwed up by even talking about firearms,and the FBI has my purchase records.But what I fail to grasp is this. Will an insurrection bring about a utopia?I'm not worried about the government that much, what keeps me nervous is PRIVATE SECURITY FORCES. And the aftermath. Who will rule? I'm old wont bother me that much. I'm a realist. My time is short.But some of you ought to be thinking about where we are right now. Its NOT a democracy. Its an oligarcy. And that is very difficult to change,but carefully planned years ago.
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You do realize that Obama actually mentioned a PRIVATE security force in his first term.......
This video is a little over the top.....but you GET the idea.
[video=youtube;ptYIH9z5vMQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptYIH9z5vMQ[/video]
Later,
Geo
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[QUOTE=GeoFisher;505722]You do realize that Obama actually mentioned a PRIVATE security force in his first term.......
This video is a little over the top.....but you GET the idea.
Later,
Geo[/QUOTE]
You can't be for real! Over the top, yes even for Geo, over the top and over the cliff to hell knows where.
"Hut... Hut", Corporal Geo. Gees, take a minute to untwist your shorts.
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Follow the money
So who benefits from the form of government we are persuing? Poor people? hardly. Are us supposedly liberals going to reap huge benefits for the over throw of our goverment, doubtfull.I'm sorry to report that we are walking down a well established path, it starts as a republic, then a democracy then to oligarcy.Its the "some are more equal than others" Those who trade freedom for security, wind up with niether. Politicians ignore us the day the ballots are tallied, and the winner starts planning re-election. We will never have true term limits,we will always be goverend by the whims of the few.Show me where I'm wrong. What we have now is an orchestrated turmoil.We want to be saved from ourselves.