Is this the beginning of the END of Obama?

The beginning of the end was when they voted him back into office in 2012.

Unfortunately, the end will take all 4 years to play out.

[QUOTE=know1;514718]The beginning of the end was when they voted him back into office in 2012.

Unfortunately, the end will take all 4 years to play out.[/QUOTE]

BINGO.............GAME, SET AND MATCH...

You can't state it any better than that, I agree 110%

[QUOTE=kygorski;514668]Every 8 years america gets fed up with the party that has the POTUS, things look good the first 4 years, and then go down hill from there. Thats whats wrong with a two party system, theres no in between, and thats the way they want it. I would love to see a viable third party, but the dems and reps will not let it happen. Our nxt president will probably be our jr sen from ky, I like some of his views. But are the two partys in congress going to like shifting toward libertarian views doubt it. Were going to have a 'snow white" president next, but even though I wont be here to see it, its going to be the last one.[/QUOTE]

Really and truely wish there was something good in the 1st 4 years. Complete failure from the beginning.

BB1

Romney got less votes than McCain. ???

The Democrats are so entrenched in D.C. that I cannot foresee any future Republican or other party replacing them.

[QUOTE=Tyme2fish;514847]Romney got less votes than McCain. ???

The Democrats are so entrenched in D.C. that I cannot foresee any future Republican or other party replacing them.[/QUOTE]
It'll happen, if not in 2014, then not too far in the future. Politics is like a pendulum, it swings back and forth.

Romney got more votes than McCain, despite what some sources are reporting:
[URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/nov/20/picket-romney-passes-mccain-popular-vote-obama-55-/"]PICKET: Romney passes McCain's 2008 popular vote total, Obama 5.5 mil behind '08 total - Washington Times[/URL]

[url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2961906/posts]Romney Vote Total Passes McCain's[/url]

I read about this today or yesterday. Evidently they found out who did some of the leaking of information about something that went on in or about North Korea and the UN sanctions imposed on NK. The government guy's name is known now and he was emailing classified information to a FOX New Corp reporter. The Government guy is in trouble with the law but not the reporter.


[QUOTE=RoadToad;514670]No, this isn't the beginning of the end. If anything, the fact that they actually found a violation of the law by a reporter helps to justify them accessing the AP's phone records in the first place. No laws were broken; they had warrants for everything. The AP can whine about it stifling the free press, and indeed may have a point, but the First Amendment does not give them the right to leak classified information damaging to our national security. I just hope they're able to identify who it is within the government who leaked the information, and bring them up on treason charges, and if they do, I say the whole thing was worth it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RoadToad;514852]It'll happen, if not in 2014, then not too far in the future. Politics is like a pendulum, it swings back and forth.[/QUOTE]

This has often been true. But the pendulum stops swinging when it gets kicked off the stand by outside forces.

Our immigration policies will continue to heavily tilt the electorate toward the left. We are also experiencing dramatic cultural shifts, with mass media and the public educational system as catalysts.

In 30-40 years, I believe there will be only a fringe conservative base. The rest will be liberal and ultra-liberal. Pandora's out of the box and she ain't getting back in.

[QUOTE=jcb;514946]This has often been true. But the pendulum stops swinging when it gets kicked off the stand by outside forces.

Our immigration policies will continue to heavily tilt the electorate toward the left. We are also experiencing dramatic cultural shifts, with mass media and the public educational system as catalysts.

In 30-40 years, I believe there will be only a fringe conservative base. The rest will be liberal and ultra-liberal. Pandora's out of the box and she ain't getting back in.[/QUOTE]

You nailed it.....In another fifty years a true Conservative will be in a cage in a Zoo and the Uber Liberals will point at it and throw animal crackers. America has went to complete ****, ran by idiots, the end.

[QUOTE=jcb;514946]This has often been true. But the pendulum stops swinging when it gets kicked off the stand by outside forces.

Our immigration policies will continue to heavily tilt the electorate toward the left. We are also experiencing dramatic cultural shifts, with mass media and the public educational system as catalysts.

In 30-40 years, I believe there will be only a fringe conservative base. The rest will be liberal and ultra-liberal. Pandora's out of the box and she ain't getting back in.[/QUOTE]

Good point, and I've even made the point myself that American demographics are changing. But what I was responding to was Tyme bemoaning the fact that the Democrats are entrenched in DC, not the liberals. A minor distinction, but an important one. I think the Rebuplicans will eventually come around to the fact that if they want to ever win another election, they need to adjust their rhetoric to appeal more to those with more moderate views, instead of relying so heavily on their ultra-conservative base.

[QUOTE=RoadToad;514950]Good point, and I've even made the point myself that American demographics are changing. But what I was responding to was Tyme bemoaning the fact that the Democrats are entrenched in DC, not the liberals. A minor distinction, but an important one. I think the Rebuplicans will eventually come around to the fact that if they want to ever win another election, they need to adjust their rhetoric to appeal more to those with more moderate views, instead of relying so heavily on their ultra-conservative base.[/QUOTE]

Translation......................Give away free stuff and cater to laziness.

I maintain there is still more people in the US that think like I do than there is the over the top liberal crowd. The problem is the media and society in general fawns over this ''movement'' and they push it on every agenda chance they get. It's now ''COOL...HIP....THE ''IN'' THING to be liberal. Us right wing God fearing, expect to pull our own weight and pay our own bills just want to be left alone so we can do it folks.................Well we are just plain out of control.

I mean why in the world should I have my own house, bass boat, new truck, guns...OMG THE HORROR, nice things and actual savings of money in the bank and so on that I and my wife have worked our asses off for years to obtain when the poor ole regular Joe out there that doesn't want to do manual labor or basically anything has nothing...

Shame on me, I and people like me are just selfish racist haters that care about nobody but ourselves. I now want to give away everything I have to some inner city person in need, or maybe some poor soul in Eastern Kentucky making Meth to try and make ends meet, poor thing. Why should I have health care..''THAT I PAY FOR BY THE WAY'' when so many don't..

Dang I'm turrible just turrible...............and you to Geo....You racist hater, LOL...

[QUOTE=mhall;514956]Translation......................Give away free stuff and cater to laziness.[/QUOTE]

I don't mean abandon conservatism. But the GOP has moved way to the right in recent years, just as the Democratic Party has moved to the left. What I meant was, quit using terms like "legitimate rape," and making other stupid statements like that (as Bobby Jindal has said, more than once). Remove the opposition to "critical thinking skills" from the Texas GOP platform. I think a lot of Democrats are just as disgusted by welfare babies and those who sponge off the rest of us as you Republicans are, but they just can't vote for a Republican candidate because their views on social issues are so far to the right, where the "fringe" used to be.