6 Jan Panel

[QUOTE=jcb;583863]The analogy falls apart in the end because it's predicated on the belief that it's normal (in this scenario) to make a boat.

Had Trump a shred of honor or decency, he would have done what every single president in the history of the U.S. had done previously, even after hotly contested elections: willingly concede, and begin the peaceful transfer of power to the next administration.

That's the real thing that separates the US from most other nations; that we have a Constitution that is bigger than any one man's ambition or pride. That doesn't exist in DJT's world.

Had he not knowingly sown the "stop the steal" seed, Jan. 6 would've come and gone like any other day on Capitol Hill.[/QUOTE]

I do not disagree DJT did fail to set a clear professional example, in the best interests of the country, when he having questioned the election didn't clearly state "I'll follow the constitution, welcome the new guy, and continue my investigation later". No argument there.

What I have a real problem with is unless there is clear evidence linking the president to the riot at the capital, i.e. he knew the plan, he endorsed it, or he openly or privately directed it (and I mean like in NIXON's case, members of his staff that clearly prove, that he was briefed on the plan and ordered it executed), then the best you can accuse Trump of is being a bad loser and failing to set a clear example.

And, if we go that route with Trump we need go after Shummer next for the threats inciting a planned attack on a Supreme Court Justice, and we need to rip BLM to shreds as well as many liberal demo idiots that condone, or called peaceful the over 400 riots that damaged property, hurt police officers, hurt private citizens]

Gosh diggidy dog folks, if its good for the goose its good for the gander and as long as we let some off that do this crap and then try to attack others we will never get back a country of equal rights, justice for all.

Don't tell me how messed up Trump is when he did more for this country in 4 years then Biden has so far. So if in fact you want to go after Trump, fine, if he's wrong he's wrong, but stop the childish "mommmie he hit me bull crap, when you hit the other guy first".

If inciting people to action is a crime, then lets have enough personal integrity and stop the childish BS and go after all the thugs that do this crap without regard to political party.

Bottomline, if your view of what is right and wrong is decided by how you vote, then get he F out of my life!

[QUOTE=ZoraSpook;583878]I do not disagree DJT did fail to set a clear professional example, in the best interests of the country, when he having questioned the election didn't clearly state "I'll follow the constitution, welcome the new guy, and continue my investigation later". No argument there.

What I have a real problem with is unless there is clear evidence linking the president to the riot at the capital, i.e. he knew the plan, he endorsed it, or he openly or privately directed it (and I mean like in NIXON's case, members of his staff that clearly prove, that he was briefed on the plan and ordered it executed), then the best you can accuse Trump of is being a bad loser and failing to set a clear example.

And, if we go that route with Trump we need go after Shummer next for the threats inciting a planned attack on a Supreme Court Justice, and we need to rip BLM to shreds as well as many liberal demo idiots that condone, or called peaceful the over 400 riots that damaged property, hurt police officers, hurt private citizens]

Gosh diggidy dog folks, if its good for the goose its good for the gander and as long as we let some off that do this crap and then try to attack others we will never get back a country of equal rights, justice for all.

Don't tell me how messed up Trump is when he did more for this country in 4 years then Biden has so far. So if in fact you want to go after Trump, fine, if he's wrong he's wrong, but stop the childish "mommmie he hit me bull crap, when you hit the other guy first".

If inciting people to action is a crime, then lets have enough personal integrity and stop the childish BS and go after all the thugs that do this crap without regard to political party.

Bottomline, if your view of what is right and wrong is decided by how you vote, then get he F out of my life![/QUOTE]

let me be first.....bye

dammit! I take it back, I miss you already man.

[QUOTE=stripernut1;583880]dammit! I take it back, I miss you already man.[/QUOTE]


Tight lines!

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;583866]I love how you throw my name out there.

I GUARANTEE you I have been more in tune to this **** than you have ever been.

YOU are an extremist,, and only look at singular points of view.......I have not watched fox in over a year.

I find it laughable you post Occupy Democrat ******** and then call me out.

You're an old ass , indoctrinated, IGNORANT buffoon.........

Have a nice day.......or better yet, go play in fucking traffic.

Ah, I feel better now.

Later,

Geo[/QUOTE]

Name calling is your best suit. Watch the hearings dude. You may learn something about your screwed up GOP.

The Jan 6 th committee will produce more evident and the DOJ is watching it all unfold.

[QUOTE=Moveon;583886]The Jan 6 th committee will produce more evident and the DOJ is watching it all unfold.[/QUOTE]


Have they played the tape yet of Pelosi refusing the NG? Or did I miss that part.

[QUOTE=ZoraSpook;583878]If inciting people to action is a crime, then lets have enough personal integrity and stop the childish BS and go after all the thugs that do this crap without regard to political party. [/QUOTE]

It is, and IMO that's exactly what DJT did.

But let's also stop with the whataboutism. Absolutely, the BLM riots were wrong on their face. Those responsible should be prosecuted fully and made examples of. But that doesn't mitigate what happened on Jan. 6 nor DJT's fundamental role in it.

The BLM riots did much more damage to life and property. January 6th did much more damage to the country and democracy.

[QUOTE=jcb;583894]It is, and IMO that's exactly what DJT did.

But let's also stop with the whataboutism. Absolutely, the BLM riots were wrong on their face. Those responsible should be prosecuted fully and made examples of. But that doesn't mitigate what happened on Jan. 6 nor DJT's fundamental role in it.

The BLM riots did much more damage to life and property. January 6th did much more damage to the country and democracy. [/QUOTE]

Some people only want to distract the conversation with other BS. This conversation is about the Jan 6th events not any other events. To those that started talking about BLM BS, start your own new thread if you want to talk about BLM bs.

[QUOTE=ZoraSpook;583893]Have they played the tape yet of Pelosi refusing the NG? Or did I miss that part.[/QUOTE]

Nancy is not under investigation. Trump is. Nancy did nothing wrong PERIOD. Quit trying to distract the conversation with your BS.

Donald John Trump was the one that setup this coup attempts, and he did a terrible job but caused a lot of damage. Trump was twice impeached. Trump was the first every President of the United States that refuse to step down peacefully after he lost the election. Many people told trump around him that supported him that he LOST the election. The lawyer that represented GW Bush in Gore vs Bush before the US Supreme Court told Donald John Trump that he lost the election. Trump's own AG Bill Barr told Donald John Trump that he lost the election. Trump's own daughter said that she believed and trusted Bill Barr. Trump instead listened to Rudy and that Sidney lawyer who lied and are not being sued for millions by Dominion. Rudy lost his law license to practice in New York and soon will lose his license to practice law in DC due to his outright lies and frivolous lawsuits. Trump's lawyers filed at least 60 lawsuits after Trump lost the election and lost all but one minor case.

[QUOTE=Moveon;583896]Nancy is not under investigation. Trump is. Nancy did nothing wrong PERIOD. Quit trying to distract the conversation with your BS.

Donald John Trump was the one that setup this coup attempts, and he did a terrible job but caused a lot of damage. Trump was twice impeached. Trump was the first every President of the United States that refuse to step down peacefully after he lost the election. Many people told trump around him that supported him that he LOST the election. The lawyer that represented GW Bush in Gore vs Bush before the US Supreme Court told Donald John Trump that he lost the election. Trump's own AG Bill Barr told Donald John Trump that he lost the election. Trump's own daughter said that she believed and trusted Bill Barr. Trump instead listened to Rudy and that Sidney lawyer who lied and are not being sued for millions by Dominion. Rudy lost his law license to practice in New York and soon will lose his license to practice law in DC due to his outright lies and frivolous lawsuits. Trump's lawyers filed at least 60 lawsuits after Trump lost the election and lost all but one minor case.[/QUOTE]

Gee, I thought the Dems “ said” this was an investigation of the occurrence to determine who was culpable. That would include all involved parties right?

Oh I am sorry, I presupposed this was an inclusive impartial investigation. My bad. So nice of you to state this is an investigation of one person.

By the way, did only one person enter the capital , attack police and damage property?

Let me ask this, if I tell you to paint your house pink, and you do it, who really is responsible for painting the house pink?

Oh wow. For it to be me I’d have to have full legal authority over you. Right? President is Commander in chief, how many proud boys are serving actively in the armed forces and under trumps lawful command on 6 Jan.

“ oh mommie, it’s not my fault, Billie told me to do it”. You ought get a t- shirt made with that on it.

[QUOTE=Moveon;583896 Trump was twice impeached. Trump was the first every President of the United States that refuse to step down peacefully after he lost the election.[/QUOTE]

Twice wrongfully charged and twice acquitted. Fraudulent charges and malicious process. Accept it moron, they tried and lost. Do if you want to call Trump a poor loser, so are the Dems that tried and failed twice and are just as poor losers and in there case refusing to accept that lawful outcome.

Pot calling the kettle black.